Wait, is this true?  In order to vote on Dec 2nd we need to be registered to 
vote on ZONING or just need to be a registered voter in Lincoln?

Please clarify?

Thank you,

Paula Robinson
617.981.1945


> On Nov 24, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Christi Damico <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Is it true that to vote on December 2, a resident must be registered for 
> this specific vote only?
> 
> That seems shady.  I can understand the need to register to vote in the Town 
> but why register AGAIN for this specific voting opportunity?  I’ve never 
> heard of such a thing.
> 
> My mom would like to vote.  She has been very occupied with other big issues. 
>  I don’t think she should be disenfranchised from voting because of this?  
> She has been registered to vote in this Town and is a Lincoln resident since 
> 1975.
> 
> Christi Damico
> Lincoln/WA
> 
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>>  4. Re: What is the REAL tax increase for the CC project? (Andy Wang)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:21:03 -0400
>> From: Danielle Pierce <[email protected]>
>> To: John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>> Cc: LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
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>> With all due respect, this is a huge issue that is being voted on very
>> soon.  Moreover, there seem to be a lot of things that are only now being
>> discovered.  If people want to talk, they should.   If people don?t want to
>> talk or listen, they shouldn?t.  But trying to silence people at this point
>> in the process sounds huge alarm bells.
>> 
>> Danielle Pierce
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my phone; apologies for formatting issues)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:49 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We are all lucky to live here.  Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA
>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk?
>>> 
>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it.
>>> 
>>> John
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:30:00 -0500
>> From: Mary Balogh <[email protected]>
>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] deCordova I Store Thanksgiving Weekend Shopping
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>> HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you from the deCordova Store!
>> Our Thanksgiving weekend hours are:
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:48:07 -0500
>> From: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>> To: ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Laurie Gray <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station?
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>> Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I
>> was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it.
>> 
>> Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete
>> draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback
>> before it is up for the vote at town meeting.
>> 
>> Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special
>> permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and
>> the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is
>> a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power.
>> 
>> Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both
>> the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of
>> the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working
>> draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density
>>> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.?
>>> 
>>> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3
>>> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the
>>> current draft of the village center bylaws?
>>> 
>>> Sarah Postlethwait
>>> 
>>> Lewis Street
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve
>>>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will be
>>>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an
>>>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before the
>>>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent
>>>> it will be published on the town website.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:?
>>>> 
>>>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those of
>>>>> us who are especially concerned about the mall development would embrace 
>>>>> an
>>>>> incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to 
>>>>> handle.
>>>>> Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with the owner
>>>>> of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA to be 
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> at this time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some history:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3
>>>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being proposed 
>>>>> in
>>>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned
>>>>> parcels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference
>>>>> 
>>>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate
>>>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south
>>>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG
>>>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 acres
>>>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not
>>>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of 25
>>>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107
>>>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being proposed
>>>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could be
>>>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a
>>>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the
>>>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even if
>>>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and nothing
>>>>> would get built.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion of
>>>>> the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is working
>>>>> with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and ?Based on
>>>>> current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a financially
>>>>> viable project?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of
>>>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the
>>>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting).
>>>>> 
>>>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building
>>>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning bylaw
>>>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for any
>>>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this was
>>>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or
>>>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See 
>>>>> photo
>>>>> below)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted here
>>>>> once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew Consigli is
>>>>> the owner of Civico development.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be
>>>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of
>>>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and
>>>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the
>>>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of
>>>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development
>>>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sarah Postlethwait
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few
>>>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how
>>>>>> important it is for the future of our town.  I have wondered if people
>>>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer
>>>>>> together than it seems.  A question I have for Lincoln talk and the 
>>>>>> greater
>>>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln
>>>>>> station?  I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln
>>>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different 
>>>>>> views
>>>>>> on how much housing.
>>>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more
>>>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental 
>>>>>> approach,
>>>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further
>>>>>> decisions at a later point.  But what is this number and how do we arrive
>>>>>> at this number?  What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but not
>>>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life?
>>>>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:16:21 -0500
>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]>
>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>   project?
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>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as 'Estimated
>> tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also for the FY23
>> Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of $17,488), so
>> it will vary based on individual home prices.   There is also the chart on
>> the right of that same slide that provides details on the impact based on
>> how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, $20M, $25M) of a
>> CC.  I believe this chart was provided by FinCom.
>> 
>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are
>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the
>> three designs.  It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the
>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center.
>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your
>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g.
>> 
>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing
>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent.
>> 
>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax
>>> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently
>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s
>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact?  is far LOWER
>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals,
>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board
>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773
>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project.
>>> 
>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading
>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on
>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up
>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are
>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed
>>> information.
>>> 
>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission
>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with
>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in
>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing.
>>> 
>>> Edward Young
>>> Bedford Road
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:30:58 -0500
>> From: ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>> To: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Laurie Gray <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station?
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>> 
>> With all due respect,
>> 
>> If the town is voting on an option that is being advertised as 3 stories,
>> 42? maximum, and 25 units an acre maximum- it should be impossible for
>> anything higher or denser to be permitted unless by town meeting vote. This
>> is what the town is expecting the bylaws to reflect, and what they are
>> assuming when voting in a week on the proposed options.
>> 
>> Furthermore, This ?wiggle room? clause was not included in every
>> Subdistrict of the draft bylaws. It was only included in the village center
>> portion.
>> 
>> And if you look directly above it, a note about adjusting the draft bylaws
>> based on the wishes of a developer, Andrew Consigli, is written in.
>> 
>> It?s very clear that the developers want 4 story/48? buildings, and no lot
>> coverage restrictions, and limited commercial and parking requirements. It
>> is astonishing to me that we are handing it to them on a silver platter
>> while telling the town a completely different story. Draft or not, these
>> are very concerning points that the public should be aware of when being
>> asked to unnecessarily include the Village Center into the HCA rezoning in
>> a week at town meeting.
>> 
>> Sarah Postlethwait
>> 
>> Lewis St
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 7:48?AM Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I
>>> was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it.
>>> 
>>> Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete
>>> draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback
>>> before it is up for the vote at town meeting.
>>> 
>>> Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special
>>> permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and
>>> the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is
>>> a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power.
>>> 
>>> Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both
>>> the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of
>>> the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working
>>> draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density
>>>> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.?
>>>> 
>>>> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3
>>>> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the
>>>> current draft of the village center bylaws?
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah Postlethwait
>>>> 
>>>> Lewis Street
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve
>>>>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will be
>>>>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an
>>>>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before 
>>>>> the
>>>>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent
>>>>> it will be published on the town website.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those
>>>>>> of us who are especially concerned about the mall development would 
>>>>>> embrace
>>>>>> an incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to
>>>>>> handle. Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with
>>>>>> the owner of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be allowed at this time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some history:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3
>>>>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being 
>>>>>> proposed in
>>>>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned
>>>>>> parcels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate
>>>>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south
>>>>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG
>>>>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 acres
>>>>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not
>>>>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of 
>>>>>> 25
>>>>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107
>>>>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being proposed
>>>>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a
>>>>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the
>>>>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and 
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> would get built.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion
>>>>>> of the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is
>>>>>> working with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and
>>>>>> ?Based on current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a
>>>>>> financially viable project?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of
>>>>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the
>>>>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building
>>>>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning bylaw
>>>>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for any
>>>>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this was
>>>>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or
>>>>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See 
>>>>>> photo
>>>>>> below)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted
>>>>>> here once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew
>>>>>> Consigli is the owner of Civico development.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be
>>>>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of
>>>>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and
>>>>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the
>>>>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of
>>>>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development
>>>>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sarah Postlethwait
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few
>>>>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how
>>>>>>> important it is for the future of our town.  I have wondered if people
>>>>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer
>>>>>>> together than it seems.  A question I have for Lincoln talk and the 
>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln
>>>>>>> station?  I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln
>>>>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different 
>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>> on how much housing.
>>>>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more
>>>>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental 
>>>>>>> approach,
>>>>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further
>>>>>>> decisions at a later point.  But what is this number and how do we 
>>>>>>> arrive
>>>>>>> at this number?  What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life?
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Browse the archives at
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:53:18 -0500
>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]>
>> To: Michael Dembowski <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected], "Listserv, Listserv"
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Radical change in Lincoln
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:46:31 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: $950 Correia Art Glass
>>   "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? diameter, handmade,
>>   signed, $295!!
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!?
>> Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!?
>> Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!?
>> Now even MORE price?reductions!?
>> We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!!
>> We have $3,578?more to go!!?
>> And we are STILL taking donations!!?
>> See all of our available?listings here!?
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh
>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, 
>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including 
>> Lincoln:?
>> $950?Correia Art Glass "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? 
>> diameter, handmade, signed, $295!!?
>> Finest art glass in the world!?
>> Signed and in perfect condition!!?
>>> From a very generous Lincoln donor
>> Current retail: $950
>> Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries?
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>> Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries
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>> LILAC AND BLACK IRIS Limited Edition: VASE 8620 Hand Signed: Yes and Dated 
>> Condition: Excellent Size 12 X 7 Provenance: New with COA. Certificate of 
>> Authenticity: Yes
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>> Our Price: $295!!
>> 
>> Please see the link below for more photos:
>> Correia Art Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE - arts & crafts - by owner - 
>> sale - craigslist?
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>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, 
>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including 
>> Lincoln: $950 Correia Art Glass Lilac and...
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>> Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page:
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh
>> 
>> Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 
>> Cerulean Way. ?
>> 
>> *Giant dog is friendly?
>> 
>> Serious inquiries only please.?
>> 
>> ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?.
>> 
>> These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.?
>> 
>> Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site
>> 
>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative 
>> has netted $36,422?since?January 2023.
>> 
>> BBI?s Mission:
>> Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction 
>> between city and suburban families
>> 
>> Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here:
>> 
>> https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?Warmly,
>> Joanna Owen Schmergel?
>> 617-645-9059
>> [email protected]
>> pronouns: she/her/hers
>> The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3)
>> 
>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)
>> 
>> Boston Bridges Initiative?
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>> (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was 
>> originally started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, 
>> Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 
>> from 2017 to 2022).
>> 
>> As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston:
>> 
>> https://www.cbsnews.com/boston...
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:48:24 -0500
>> From: Scott Clary <[email protected]>
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln!
>> 
>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Clary
>> 617-968-5769
>> 
>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am
>>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they
>>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.
>>> 
>>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they
>>> keep coming. Help admin!
>>> 
>>> Donald
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of John
>>> Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM
>>> *To:* LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>>> 
>>> We are all lucky to live here.  Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA
>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk?
>>> 
>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> --
>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list.
>>> To post, send mail to [email protected].
>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/
>>> .
>>> Change your subscription settings at
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:54:19 -0500
>> From: V Saleme <[email protected]>
>> To: Scott Clary <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you as well Scott and everyone else!
>> 
>> Vic
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 10:48?AM Scott Clary <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln!
>>> 
>>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete
>>> button.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Scott Clary
>>> 617-968-5769
>>> 
>>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am
>>>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they
>>>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.
>>>> 
>>>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they
>>>> keep coming. Help admin!
>>>> 
>>>> Donald
>>>> 
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of John
>>>> Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM
>>>> *To:* LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> We are all lucky to live here.  Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA
>>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk?
>>>> 
>>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> --
>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list.
>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected].
>>>> Browse the archives at
>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/.
>>>> Change your subscription settings at
>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln.
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>>>> --
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:07:48 +0000
>> From: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> To: Scott Clary <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> Message-ID:
>>   
>> <bl1pr14mb5046706c9c74be62d1c385c8ca...@bl1pr14mb5046.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> 
>> You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week 
>> packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a 
>> retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning.
>> 
>> It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this 
>> Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean 
>> that someone else does not.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Scott Clary <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>; LincolnTalk 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> 
>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln!
>> 
>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Clary
>> 617-968-5769
>> 
>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am overwhelmed. 
>> This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they should send 
>> multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.
>> 
>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they 
>> keep coming. Help admin!
>> 
>> Donald
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Lincoln 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
>> behalf of John Mendelson 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM
>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> 
>> We are all lucky to live here.  Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA 
>> chatter on Lincoln Talk?
>> 
>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it.
>> 
>> John
>> --
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>> To post, send mail to 
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:48:01 -0500
>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]>
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Scott Clary <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: Correia Art Glass perfume
>>   bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed $65
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!?
>> Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!?
>> Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!?
>> Now even?MORE price?reductions!?
>> We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!!
>> We have $3,578?more to go!!?
>> And we are STILL taking donations!!?
>> See all of our available?listings here!?
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh
>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, 
>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including 
>> Lincoln:?
>> For the woman who has everything:?
>> Correia Art Glass perfume bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed?
>> Finest art glass in the world!?
>> Signed and in perfect condition!!?
>>> From a very generous Lincoln donor
>> Our Price: $65
>> 
>> Please see the link below for more photos:
>> Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts & crafts - by owner - sale 
>> - craigslist?
>> 
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>> Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts &#38; crafts - by owner - 
>> sale - craigslist
>> 
>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, 
>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including 
>> Lincoln: Correia Art Glass perfume bottle...
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>> 
>> |
>> 
>> 
>> Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page:
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh
>> 
>> Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 
>> Cerulean Way. ?
>> 
>> *Giant dog is friendly?
>> 
>> Serious inquiries only please.?
>> 
>> ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?.
>> 
>> These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.?
>> 
>> Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site
>> 
>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative 
>> has netted $36,422?since?January 2023.
>> 
>> BBI?s Mission:
>> Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction 
>> between city and suburban families
>> 
>> Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here:
>> 
>> https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/
>> ?Warmly,
>> Joanna Owen Schmergel?
>> 617-645-9059
>> [email protected]
>> pronouns: she/her/hers
>> The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3)
>> 
>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)
>> 
>> Boston Bridges Initiative?
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was 
>> originally started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, 
>> Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 
>> from 2017 to 2022).
>> 
>> As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston:
>> 
>> https://www.cbsnews.com/boston...
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:00:00 -0500
>> From: Ran Cronin <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] December Happenings at the Lincoln Public
>>   Library
>> Message-ID:
>>   <cah+owxgikrtponkwqcjio3avfzvukwlkkfr+s_b4wfm00vx...@mail.gmail.com>
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>> Here are just a few of the many events happening at LPL in December:
>> 
>> The Nutcracker: A Preview
>> 
>> Friday, December 1, 4-5 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-nutcracker-a-preview-3/>Join
>> us for a reading of The Nutcracker geared to young children accompanied by
>> dancers from the Commonwealth Ballet Company acting out some of the parts.
>> Children get to meet the dancers after the reading.
>> 
>> The Boston Tea Party: A ?What Was? Book Discussion!
>> 
>> Wednesday, December 6, 3-4 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/>
>> 
>> Celebrate "America's 250!" Join us for a discussion of the book What Was
>> the Boston Tea Party? to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the notorious
>> Dec 16, 1773 event. Books will be available at the Children's Desk to be
>> read in advance. This event is perfect for families interested in history.
>> Best for ages 6+ but anyone is welcome. Discussion, craft, and light
>> refreshments served. Registration is limited to 30 for this
>> discussion. Register
>> here
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/>
>> !
>> 
>> VIRTUAl Boston Tea Party at the 250th Anniversary
>> 
>> Thursday, December 7, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/>This
>> year marks the 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, a political
>> protest that occurred on December 16, 1773 in Boston. Bringing vividly to
>> life the diverse array of people and places that the Tea Party brought
>> together ? from Chinese tea-pickers to English businessmen, Native American
>> tribes, sugar plantation slaves, and Boston?s ladies of leisure ?
>> Professor Benjamin
>> L. Carp will share with us how a determined group of New Englanders shook
>> the foundations of the British Empire, and what this has meant for
>> Americans since.
>> 
>> Benjamin L. Carp is the Daniel M. Lyons Professor of American History at
>> Brooklyn College and teaches at the Graduate Center of the City University
>> of New York. His latest book is The Great New York Fire of 1776: A Lost
>> Story of the American Revolution. He also wrote Defiance of the Patriots:
>> The Boston Tea Party and the Making of America (Yale, 2010), which won the
>> Cox Book Prize from the Society of the Cincinnati in 2013, and Rebels
>> Rising: Cities and the American Revolution (Oxford, 2007). Register here!
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/>
>> 
>> LOMA Open Mike featuring Geoff Goodhue & Friends
>> 
>> Tuesday, December 12, 7-10 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/loma-open-mike-featuring-geoff-goodhue-friends/>Raised
>> in Boxford, Massachusetts, Geoff graduated from Ohio University in 2004
>> with a B.F.A. in Percussion Performance and currently lives in Jackson, New
>> Hampshire. His family outfit, The Goodhues Band, was featured at the 2016
>> Mountain Laurel Autoharp Gathering. Come listen to Geoff and his friends!
>> LOMA is a monthly open mike night event. For a slot, performers should
>> email Rich Eilbert at [email protected] (before noon of the open-mike day)
>> or sign up at the event.
>> 
>> Gingerbread Fun!
>> 
>> Wednesday, December 12, 4-5:30 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/gingerbread-fun-2/>Get
>> into the holiday spirit with gingerbread stories and cookie decorating! All
>> materials will be provided. Intended for children aged 5+. Register is
>> required. Register by emailing [email protected].
>> 
>> VIRTUAL Brain Health with Dr. Jonathan Rosand
>> 
>> Thursday, December 14, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/>Join
>> us for a talk about brain health with Critical Care Neurologist Jonathan
>> Rosand, MD. Dr. Rosand?s talk will focus on brain care and brain health
>> prevention, with a specific focus on lifestyle behaviors and modifications
>> that can help one delay or prevent the incidence of dementia and late in
>> life depression. He?s spoken about this topic many times over the years,
>> and will have a series of slides to share and time for questions at the
>> end. Register here!
>> 
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/>
>> 
>> A Gathering of Celtic and Christmas with Jeff Snow
>> 
>> Friday, December 15, 12:30-1:30 PM at Bemis Hall, Council on Aging & Health
>> Services
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/a-gathering-of-celtic-and-christmas-with-jeff-snow/>Join
>> us for a celebration of Celtic and Christmas music at Bemis Hall, Council
>> on Aging & Health Services! Jeff Snow is a talented multi-instrumentalist
>> who plays the music and tells the stories behind the songs. He plays six
>> and twelve string guitar, autoharp, Celtic Bouzouki & Bodhran. Learn more
>> about Jeff?s music at his website, jeffsnow.net, and come hear him play!
>> 
>> Lincoln Film Society Presents The Icestorm (1997, R)
>> 
>> Thursday, December 21, 6-8 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/lincoln-library-film-society-64/>
>> 
>> ?In the 1970s, an outwardly wholesome family begins cracking at the seams
>> over the course of a tumultuous Thanksgiving break. Frustrated with his
>> job, the father, Ben (Kevin Kline), seeks fulfillment by cheating on his
>> wife, Elena (Joan Allen), with neighborhood seductress Janey (Sigourney
>> Weaver).  The family's strained relations continue to tighten until an ice
>> storm strikes.? Some films may not be suitable for patrons under the age of
>> 16. Sign up for the mailing list here
>> <https://c45b8245.sibforms.com/serve/MUIFAGC-bWE9p6L6ouTPFdRYv4UT7Ul5jXigcFFTvq1jtppHhQdYAdo2C40AdxHsVn993vxhMwlRKfkOVFQumgxrJbYLbDjxuo1eUT_des9jgZPq0VWsY118_x16XBUmUEZ5upGYah59OdZkI6eYm5Hg0YH9_ZtkCKx_tsrnrnLx_kNHwDQIMyex37rE4q4hWApA-_hCsiEeC5x4>
>> .
>> 
>> Winter Musics and Muffins
>> 
>> Friday, December 29, 10:30-11 AM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library
>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/winter-movies-and-muffins-3/>
>> 
>> Come watch winter themed film versions of classic picture books and enjoy
>> muffins and juice. Intended for children ages 2+. No registration required.
>> 
>> Looking for more events at the Library?
>> 
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>> Subscribe to keep up to date on our latest events, services, and news every
>> Friday!
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Ran Cronin
>> Assistant Director
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:59:53 -0500
>> From: Stephen Dirrane <[email protected]>
>> To: Edwina Lincoln <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Free stone dust
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Hello LincolnTalk,
>> 
>> It?s been an age old tradition in our family to give out stone dust on 
>> Thanksgiving. We have 2-3 yards or prime Cavechios stone dust, buttery 
>> smooth, which we?d love to share, just as the Wampanoag shared with the 
>> Pilgrims.
>> 
>> Either email or text me at  (978) 369-0024 if interested. And have a lovely 
>> Thanksgiving.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Stephen Dirrane
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:38:20 -0500
>> From: Edward Young <[email protected]>
>> To: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>   project?
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Andy Wang wrote of my post about the Select Board?s November 16 mailing: 
>> ?Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing 
>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. "
>> 
>> But the PROMINENCE with which the various numbers are presented to the 
>> voters is the ENTIRE point of my post. Why are the most important numbers 
>> buried, or not included at all, and an extraneous number highlighted?
>> 
>> In fuller detail:
>> 
>> 1. The information most critical to town citizens about the tax effects of 
>> each of the three proposals they are being asked to vote upon, which have 
>> proposed costs of $12.5M, $18.75M and $25M respectively, is presumably what 
>> percentage increases in their taxes are estimated for each price point. That 
>> is certainly the first thing I would want to know. These percentages are 
>> nowhere disclosed in the mailing. Why were these numbers not the numbers 
>> most prominently set forth? Why were they not included at all?
>> 
>> 2. Yes, a useful way of illustrating these percentage increases would be to 
>> translate them into dollar amounts for a Lincoln home of median value. But 
>> the fourth page merely says ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $773 increase,? ?TAX IMPACT: 
>> Up to $541 increase,? and ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $387 increase? without saying 
>> that these numbers are for a median home and that for half the town 
>> residents the dollar amount would necessarily be larger than the ?Up to? 
>> amount. Also it is not disclosed there that the increase would be in effect 
>> for decades, not for a single year. Why was not clearer language such as 
>> ?ANNUAL TAX IMPACT FOR MEDIAN HOME? used instead of  ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $773 
>> increase?? Doesn?t that wording imply that nobody would have an increase 
>> greater than $773?
>> 
>> 3. Later on, you can find a reference that the tax impact number is per 
>> median home if you read the tiny type on the fifth page. This illustrates my 
>> point about prominence of disclosure.
>> 
>> 4. Later on, the sixth page sets forth tables of numbers for hypothetical 
>> amounts of borrowings at price points that bear no relation to the proposed 
>> costs for the project, so that voters must calculate the necessary 
>> adjustments to the real numbers for themselves, assuming that the entire 
>> cost of the project is to be bonded and the debt service paid entirely by 
>> future taxes. How does using hypothetical amounts rather than the actual 
>> proposed amounts aid the readers? understanding? And why is the hypothetical 
>> dollar amount, which is far less than any of the proposed project costs, the 
>> one that gets highlighted by itself in the left hand column? Voters don?t 
>> need to know the dollar amount for a hypothetical $10M, they need to know 
>> the actual dollar amounts for the actual price points they are voting on.
>> 
>> 5. There is a reference to a "Stabilization balance" of $5.5M but no 
>> explanation is provided as to what this term means or how it relates to the 
>> cost of the project. If it is meant to imply that some portion of the 
>> project cost may be paid out of existing town funds, it should also be 
>> pointed out that those funds came from past taxes and that any other uses to 
>> which they would otherwise have been put would need to be funded from future 
>> taxes.
>> 
>> 6. One would expect that the most important information for voters would be 
>> highlighted by presenting it (for example) in the largest type size, in 
>> boldface, on the stand-alone page with lots of white space that is captioned 
>> ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT.? Instead, the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page does not 
>> mention either the estimated percentage increases in everybody?s tax bill or 
>> the estimated dollar amounts for a median home; instead, the dollar amount 
>> most prominently displayed on the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page is a number 
>> for the tax impact of servicing a hypothetical amount of debt ($10M) that is 
>> lower than any of the costs proposed for the project ($12.5M. $18.75M and 
>> $25M). Please explain why that number is highlighted while some (but not 
>> all) of the numbers corresponding to the actual proposed costs are set forth 
>> elsewhere in smaller non-bold type on densely packed pages and without any 
>> of the necessary explanation provided on the later pages.
>> 
>> Those are the kinds of questions that I know the Securities and Exchange 
>> Commission staff would raise if a company presented numbers in a draft of a 
>> document in the manner presented in the November 16 mailing. The SEC folks 
>> definitely recognize that the prominence with which data catches the 
>> reader?s eye, and the orderliness with which the information is presented, 
>> is every bit as important as whether everything gets printed in small print 
>> somewhere in the document. (And of course the estimated percentage increases 
>> in everybody?s tax bill are not presented at all).
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:04:16 -0500
>> From: Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>   project?
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and
>> consistent.?  is quoted in the email below.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact is
>> mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be
>> ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page
>> that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger
>> than anywhere else.
>> 
>> Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than
>> those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there
>> should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned.
>> 
>> A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17
>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>> project?
>>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]>
>>> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as
>>> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also
>>> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of
>>> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices.   There is also
>>> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the
>>> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M,
>>> $20M, $25M) of a CC.  I believe this chart was provided by FinCom.
>>> 
>>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are
>>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the
>>> three designs.  It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the
>>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center.
>>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your
>>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g.
>>> 
>>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing
>>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent.
>>> 
>>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax
>>>> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently
>>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s
>>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact?  is far LOWER
>>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals,
>>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board
>>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773
>>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project.
>>>> 
>>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading
>>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on
>>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up
>>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are
>>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed
>>>> information.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission
>>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with
>>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in
>>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing.
>>>> 
>>>> Edward Young
>>>> Bedford Road
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:23:13 -0500
>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]>
>> To: Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>   project?
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> Nope, you're correct. The values reported on that page are insufficiently
>> labeled. I missed that page and stand corrected.
>> 
>> - Andy
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 3:04?PM Karla Gravis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and
>>> consistent.?  is quoted in the email below.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact
>>> is mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be
>>> ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page
>>> that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger
>>> than anywhere else.
>>> 
>>> Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than
>>> those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there
>>> should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned.
>>> 
>>> A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17
>>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC
>>>> project?
>>>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]>
>>>> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as
>>>> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also
>>>> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of
>>>> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices.   There is also
>>>> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the
>>>> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M,
>>>> $20M, $25M) of a CC.  I believe this chart was provided by FinCom.
>>>> 
>>>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are
>>>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the
>>>> three designs.  It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the
>>>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center.
>>>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your
>>>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g.
>>>> 
>>>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing
>>>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent.
>>>> 
>>>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected
>>>>> tax impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently
>>>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s
>>>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact?  is far LOWER
>>>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals,
>>>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board
>>>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to 
>>>>> $773
>>>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading
>>>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, 
>>>>> on
>>>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of 
>>>>> ?up
>>>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are
>>>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed
>>>>> information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission
>>>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with
>>>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in
>>>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Edward Young
>>>>> Bedford Road
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/.
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>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:13:35 -0500
>> From: Cris Ratiner <[email protected]>
>> To: LincolnTalk Listserve <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Posting for teenager:  kids books for sale
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Hi Lincoln,
>> 
>> My son, now a sophisticated high schooler, has pared through his voluminous 
>> bookshelves.  He would like to make a few dollars toward his school band 
>> trip and offers the following collections for a small amount.  I can vouch 
>> for the fact that these are all in good condition, having been read once at 
>> most.  (Full disclosure: we have a dog, but no cats or mold in the house).  
>> 
>> Happy Thanksgiving!
>> 
>> Cris Ratiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 19
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:22:23 -0500
>> From: Anne Warner <[email protected]>
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Scott Clary <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:59:51 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Terri <[email protected]>
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>,  Sara Mattes
>>   <[email protected]>
>> Cc: LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> 
>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln!?
>> I'd like to sprinkle alittle humor into this conversation..... so I'll tag 
>> onto Sara's "One Fell Swoop" comment with a hilarious skit from my favorite 
>> comedian.. Nate Borgatze.? Enjoy... don't worry no profanities!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwfL1gJ4jw
>> 
>> 
>> Terri Kafina. :)
>>   On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:48:19 AM EST, Sara Mattes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:  
>> 
>> I suggest you put LincolnTalk in the search function, scan and delete in one 
>> fell swoop.In the alternative, subscribe for the digest format and it will 
>> arrive as a package- easy to digest?as I pray the meal we will probably 
>> stuff ourselves with is too.?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?
>> You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week 
>> packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a 
>> retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning.?
>> It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this 
>> Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean 
>> that someone else does not.?
>> Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Scott Clary <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM
>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>
>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>; LincolnTalk 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?Happy Thanksgiving 
>> Lincoln!
>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button.?
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Clary
>> 617-968-5769
>> 
>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors???
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am overwhelmed. 
>> This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they should send 
>> multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.?
>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they 
>> keep coming. Help admin!
>> Donald
>> Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf 
>> of John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM
>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?We are all lucky to live 
>> here.? Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA chatter on Lincoln Talk?
>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it.
>> John--
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:40:02 -0600
>> From: Richard Theriault <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Sale: Men?s MOTO snowboard boots size 11.5.
>>   Very good condition. $40
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>> Hi LT,
>> 
>> If interested you can send me a text at 617 438 4315 or email me at
>> [email protected].
>> 
>> Thnx
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>> Message: 22
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:22:00 -0500
>> From: Bijoy Misra <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] non-turkey Thanksgiving
>> Message-ID:
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>> Dear friends,,
>> In this town of Lincoln, I am a minority Hindu of Indian descent.
>> Hindu is not a prescriptive religion, it is an empirical belief system
>> of acknowledgement.  That our existence is a blessing of myriads
>> of other objects and cosmos is the acknowledgement.  I will
>> complete twenty years of my residence in Lincoln next April.
>> I thank you all for being good friends, wise neighbors, loving
>> elders and analytic young professionals. Above all, I thank you
>> all for the deep respect to the ground, to the earth.  The ground
>> is the core teacher of Hinduism. We dig it, we tear it and it still
>> blesses us with food and shelter.  It's the Mother.  Let us continue
>> to respect the ground in our own way.  Let the ground continue to
>> bless us with her trees, herbs, flowers, animals, birds and insects.  .
>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>> Best regards,
>> Bijoy Misra
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>> Message: 23
>> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:42:51 -0500
>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]>
>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Decades, Southern States Considered
>>   Thanksgiving an Act of Northern Aggression
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>> And we thought our debates over the Community Center and HCA zoning were 
>> heated, pumpkin pie seems to have out done us.
>> 
>> 
>> For Decades, Southern States Considered Thanksgiving an Act of Northern 
>> Aggression
>> In the 19th century, pumpkin pie ignited a culture war.
>> 
>> https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/thanksgiving-pumpkin-pie-culture-war?utm_source=share_by_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailto_share
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