If it is true: I doubt it is legal? Can someone with Town Elections knowledge confirm or deny the veracity?
> On Nov 24, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Paula Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wait, is this true? In order to vote on Dec 2nd we need to be registered to > vote on ZONING or just need to be a registered voter in Lincoln? > > Please clarify? > > Thank you, > > Paula Robinson > 617.981.1945 > > >> On Nov 24, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Christi Damico <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Is it true that to vote on December 2, a resident must be registered for >> this specific vote only? >> >> That seems shady. I can understand the need to register to vote in the Town >> but why register AGAIN for this specific voting opportunity? I’ve never >> heard of such a thing. >> >> My mom would like to vote. She has been very occupied with other big >> issues. I don’t think she should be disenfranchised from voting because of >> this? She has been registered to vote in this Town and is a Lincoln >> resident since 1975. >> >> Christi Damico >> Lincoln/WA >> >>>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 1:29 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Send Lincoln mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Lincoln digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Thankful to live in Lincoln (Danielle Pierce) >>> 2. deCordova I Store Thanksgiving Weekend Shopping Hours >>> (Mary Balogh) >>> 3. Re: How many housing units at Lincoln Station? (Margaret Olson) >>> 4. Re: What is the REAL tax increase for the CC project? (Andy Wang) >>> 5. 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Posting for teenager: kids books for sale (Cris Ratiner) >>> 19. Re: Thankful to live in Lincoln (Anne Warner) >>> 20. Re: Thankful to live in Lincoln (Terri) >>> 21. For Sale: Men?s MOTO snowboard boots size 11.5. Very good >>> condition. $40 (Richard Theriault) >>> 22. non-turkey Thanksgiving (Bijoy Misra) >>> 23. For Decades, Southern States Considered Thanksgiving an Act >>> of Northern Aggression (Sara Mattes) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:21:03 -0400 >>> From: Danielle Pierce <[email protected]> >>> To: John Mendelson <[email protected]> >>> Cc: LincolnTalk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAFdo4aCtSojX=voqukmm+a2k-fgjzxj-h8yeyaa+8rbgdns...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> With all due respect, this is a huge issue that is being voted on very >>> soon. Moreover, there seem to be a lot of things that are only now being >>> discovered. If people want to talk, they should. If people don?t want to >>> talk or listen, they shouldn?t. But trying to silence people at this point >>> in the process sounds huge alarm bells. >>> >>> Danielle Pierce >>> >>> >>> (Sent from my phone; apologies for formatting issues) >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:49 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>>> >>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>>> >>>> John >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >>>> . >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231122/b8b9d054/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:30:00 -0500 >>> From: Mary Balogh <[email protected]> >>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] deCordova I Store Thanksgiving Weekend Shopping >>> Hours >>> Message-ID: >>> <cajmpjvnwq3oc9uusa-os-ymjgmfzmdckwzkuatph9mfywjh...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you from the deCordova Store! >>> Our Thanksgiving weekend hours are: >>> >>> *FRIDAY: 10am - 4pm* *GREEN FRIDAY:* *Take the **Gratitude and Awe Family >>> Hike *https://thetrustees.org/event/85855/*, and then stop by the store to >>> see what's new for the holidays!* >>> *SATURDAY: 10am - 5pm* *SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY - Shop small, shop local, >>> shop at a not-for-profit!* >>> *SUNDAY: 10am - 5pm*. *MUSEUM STORE SUNDAY** - Members double their store >>> discount to 20%!* >>> >>> >>> [image: image.png] >>> >>> The Trustees | *deCordova Sculpture Park and Museum* >>> 51 Sandy Pond Road? |? Lincoln, MA 01773 >>> 781.259.8692 Store >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/58c37b6a/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image.png >>> Type: image/png >>> Size: 4471 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/58c37b6a/attachment-0001.png> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:48:07 -0500 >>> From: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> >>> To: ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Laurie Gray <[email protected]>, [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station? >>> Message-ID: >>> <cahqz9n3vl003b9-o74heyaz90voexydelcz+vw-91ekv6rt...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I >>> was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it. >>> >>> Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete >>> draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback >>> before it is up for the vote at town meeting. >>> >>> Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special >>> permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and >>> the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is >>> a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power. >>> >>> Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both >>> the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of >>> the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working >>> draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state. >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density >>>> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.? >>>> >>>> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying. >>>> >>>> >>>> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3 >>>> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the >>>> current draft of the village center bylaws? >>>> >>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>> >>>> Lewis Street >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve >>>>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will be >>>>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an >>>>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before >>>>> the >>>>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent >>>>> it will be published on the town website. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:? >>>>> >>>>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those of >>>>>> us who are especially concerned about the mall development would embrace >>>>>> an >>>>>> incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to >>>>>> handle. >>>>>> Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with the >>>>>> owner >>>>>> of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA to be >>>>>> allowed >>>>>> at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some history: >>>>>> >>>>>> ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3 >>>>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being >>>>>> proposed in >>>>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre. >>>>>> >>>>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned >>>>>> parcels. >>>>>> >>>>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference >>>>>> >>>>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom. >>>>>> >>>>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate >>>>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south >>>>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area. >>>>>> >>>>>> ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG >>>>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 acres >>>>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not >>>>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of >>>>>> 25 >>>>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107 >>>>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being proposed >>>>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could >>>>>> be >>>>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?) >>>>>> >>>>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a >>>>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the >>>>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even >>>>>> if >>>>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and >>>>>> nothing >>>>>> would get built. >>>>>> >>>>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion of >>>>>> the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is working >>>>>> with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and ?Based on >>>>>> current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a financially >>>>>> viable project? >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of >>>>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the >>>>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting). >>>>>> >>>>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building >>>>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning bylaw >>>>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for any >>>>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this was >>>>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or >>>>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See >>>>>> photo >>>>>> below) >>>>>> >>>>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted here >>>>>> once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew Consigli is >>>>>> the owner of Civico development. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be >>>>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of >>>>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and >>>>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the >>>>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of >>>>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development >>>>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few >>>>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how >>>>>>> important it is for the future of our town. I have wondered if people >>>>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer >>>>>>> together than it seems. A question I have for Lincoln talk and the >>>>>>> greater >>>>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln >>>>>>> station? I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln >>>>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different >>>>>>> views >>>>>>> on how much housing. >>>>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more >>>>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental >>>>>>> approach, >>>>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further >>>>>>> decisions at a later point. But what is this number and how do we >>>>>>> arrive >>>>>>> at this number? What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image_123650291.JPG >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 261039 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.jpe> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: 1FB3E4C7-58AC-4104-809C-1030CA33F30F.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 422928 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:16:21 -0500 >>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]> >>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>> project? >>> Message-ID: >>> <caefvrnh0-xvnwxyrdgykj2-hzbf-bjpcwasjdqqjm4zthwr...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as 'Estimated >>> tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also for the FY23 >>> Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of $17,488), so >>> it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also the chart on >>> the right of that same slide that provides details on the impact based on >>> how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, $20M, $25M) of a >>> CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. >>> >>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are >>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the >>> three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the >>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. >>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your >>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. >>> >>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. >>> >>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax >>>> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far LOWER >>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals, >>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773 >>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >>>> >>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on >>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up >>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >>>> >>>> Edward Young >>>> Bedford Road >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >>>> . >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/44e4e16c/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:30:58 -0500 >>> From: ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]> >>> To: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Laurie Gray <[email protected]>, [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station? >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAH9ufVu-nio+sUdtmxMBNzfQ9GC=ak_hiqeridbtea7bxu7...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> With all due respect, >>> >>> If the town is voting on an option that is being advertised as 3 stories, >>> 42? maximum, and 25 units an acre maximum- it should be impossible for >>> anything higher or denser to be permitted unless by town meeting vote. This >>> is what the town is expecting the bylaws to reflect, and what they are >>> assuming when voting in a week on the proposed options. >>> >>> Furthermore, This ?wiggle room? clause was not included in every >>> Subdistrict of the draft bylaws. It was only included in the village center >>> portion. >>> >>> And if you look directly above it, a note about adjusting the draft bylaws >>> based on the wishes of a developer, Andrew Consigli, is written in. >>> >>> It?s very clear that the developers want 4 story/48? buildings, and no lot >>> coverage restrictions, and limited commercial and parking requirements. It >>> is astonishing to me that we are handing it to them on a silver platter >>> while telling the town a completely different story. Draft or not, these >>> are very concerning points that the public should be aware of when being >>> asked to unnecessarily include the Village Center into the HCA rezoning in >>> a week at town meeting. >>> >>> Sarah Postlethwait >>> >>> Lewis St >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 7:48?AM Margaret Olson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I >>>> was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it. >>>> >>>> Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete >>>> draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback >>>> before it is up for the vote at town meeting. >>>> >>>> Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special >>>> permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and >>>> the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is >>>> a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power. >>>> >>>> Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both >>>> the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of >>>> the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working >>>> draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state. >>>> >>>> Margaret >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density >>>>> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.? >>>>> >>>>> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3 >>>>> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the >>>>> current draft of the village center bylaws? >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>>> >>>>> Lewis Street >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve >>>>>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will >>>>>> be >>>>>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an >>>>>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before >>>>>> the >>>>>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent >>>>>> it will be published on the town website. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:? >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those >>>>>>> of us who are especially concerned about the mall development would >>>>>>> embrace >>>>>>> an incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to >>>>>>> handle. Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with >>>>>>> the owner of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> be allowed at this time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some history: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3 >>>>>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being >>>>>>> proposed in >>>>>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned >>>>>>> parcels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate >>>>>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south >>>>>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG >>>>>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 >>>>>>> acres >>>>>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not >>>>>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of >>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107 >>>>>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being >>>>>>> proposed >>>>>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a >>>>>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the >>>>>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and >>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>> would get built. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion >>>>>>> of the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is >>>>>>> working with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and >>>>>>> ?Based on current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a >>>>>>> financially viable project? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of >>>>>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the >>>>>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building >>>>>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning >>>>>>> bylaw >>>>>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or >>>>>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See >>>>>>> photo >>>>>>> below) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted >>>>>>> here once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew >>>>>>> Consigli is the owner of Civico development. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be >>>>>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of >>>>>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and >>>>>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the >>>>>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of >>>>>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development >>>>>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few >>>>>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how >>>>>>>> important it is for the future of our town. I have wondered if people >>>>>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer >>>>>>>> together than it seems. A question I have for Lincoln talk and the >>>>>>>> greater >>>>>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln >>>>>>>> station? I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln >>>>>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different >>>>>>>> views >>>>>>>> on how much housing. >>>>>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more >>>>>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental >>>>>>>> approach, >>>>>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further >>>>>>>> decisions at a later point. But what is this number and how do we >>>>>>>> arrive >>>>>>>> at this number? What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image_123650291.JPG >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 261039 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.jpe> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: 1FB3E4C7-58AC-4104-809C-1030CA33F30F.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 422928 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:53:18 -0500 >>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]> >>> To: Michael Dembowski <[email protected]> >>> Cc: [email protected], "Listserv, Listserv" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Radical change in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/6f5bc27b/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:46:31 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: $950 Correia Art Glass >>> "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? diameter, handmade, >>> signed, $295!! >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!? >>> Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!? >>> Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!? >>> Now even MORE price?reductions!? >>> We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!! >>> We have $3,578?more to go!!? >>> And we are STILL taking donations!!? >>> See all of our available?listings here!? >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh >>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, >>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups >>> including Lincoln:? >>> $950?Correia Art Glass "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? >>> diameter, handmade, signed, $295!!? >>> Finest art glass in the world!? >>> Signed and in perfect condition!!? >>>> From a very generous Lincoln donor >>> Current retail: $950 >>> Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries? >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries >>> >>> LILAC AND BLACK IRIS Limited Edition: VASE 8620 Hand Signed: Yes and Dated >>> Condition: Excellent Size 12 X 7 Provenance: New with COA. Certificate of >>> Authenticity: Yes >>> | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> Our Price: $295!! >>> >>> Please see the link below for more photos: >>> Correia Art Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE - arts & crafts - by owner - >>> sale - craigslist? >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Correia Art Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE - arts & crafts - by owner >>> - sale - craigslist >>> >>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, >>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups >>> including Lincoln: $950 Correia Art Glass Lilac and... >>> | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page: >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh >>> >>> Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 >>> Cerulean Way. ? >>> >>> *Giant dog is friendly? >>> >>> Serious inquiries only please.? >>> >>> ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?. >>> >>> These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.? >>> >>> Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site >>> >>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative >>> has netted $36,422?since?January 2023. >>> >>> BBI?s Mission: >>> Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction >>> between city and suburban families >>> >>> Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here: >>> >>> https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ?Warmly, >>> Joanna Owen Schmergel? >>> 617-645-9059 >>> [email protected] >>> pronouns: she/her/hers >>> The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3) >>> >>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) >>> >>> Boston Bridges Initiative? >>> >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Boston Bridges Initiative >>> >>> >>> | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was >>> originally started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, >>> Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 >>> from 2017 to 2022). >>> >>> As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston: >>> >>> https://www.cbsnews.com/boston... >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/8da0ece4/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_4109.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 2917441 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/8da0ece4/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:48:24 -0500 >>> From: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: >>> <CA+ZAMmfOVLgH+PLyC6bmNpa1d=gfrAnfu6hMAce=ryptpgy...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! >>> >>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Scott Clary >>> 617-968-5769 >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >>>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >>>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. >>>> >>>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >>>> keep coming. Help admin! >>>> >>>> Donald >>>> >>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of John >>>> Mendelson <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >>>> *To:* LincolnTalk <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>>> >>>> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>>> >>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>>> >>>> John >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >>>> . >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/b7c1747d/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:54:19 -0500 >>> From: V Saleme <[email protected]> >>> To: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAJDdKYHrwDWXCP=Tsrb31iPrSSsbe=mhkv1tfimickxb9wz...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you as well Scott and everyone else! >>> >>> Vic >>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 10:48?AM Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! >>>> >>>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete >>>> button. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Scott Clary >>>> 617-968-5769 >>>> >>>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >>>>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >>>>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. >>>>> >>>>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >>>>> keep coming. Help admin! >>>>> >>>>> Donald >>>>> >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of John >>>>> Mendelson <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >>>>> *To:* LincolnTalk <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>>>> >>>>> >>>> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >>>>> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>>>> >>>>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >>>> . >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/72e1b7e1/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:07:48 +0000 >>> From: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> To: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <bl1pr14mb5046706c9c74be62d1c385c8ca...@bl1pr14mb5046.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week >>> packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a >>> retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning. >>> >>> It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this >>> Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean >>> that someone else does not. >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM >>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>; LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> >>> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! >>> >>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Scott Clary >>> 617-968-5769 >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. >>> >>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >>> keep coming. Help admin! >>> >>> Donald >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Lincoln >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> on behalf of John Mendelson >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> >>> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >>> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>> >>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>> >>> John >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/d628ed5a/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:48:01 -0500 >>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]> >>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Scott Clary <[email protected]>, LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/f2f9d11e/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: Correia Art Glass perfume >>> bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed $65 >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!? >>> Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!? >>> Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!? >>> Now even?MORE price?reductions!? >>> We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!! >>> We have $3,578?more to go!!? >>> And we are STILL taking donations!!? >>> See all of our available?listings here!? >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh >>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, >>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups >>> including Lincoln:? >>> For the woman who has everything:? >>> Correia Art Glass perfume bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed? >>> Finest art glass in the world!? >>> Signed and in perfect condition!!? >>>> From a very generous Lincoln donor >>> Our Price: $65 >>> >>> Please see the link below for more photos: >>> Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts & crafts - by owner - sale >>> - craigslist? >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts & crafts - by owner - >>> sale - craigslist >>> >>> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, >>> a 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups >>> including Lincoln: Correia Art Glass perfume bottle... >>> | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page: >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh >>> >>> Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 >>> Cerulean Way. ? >>> >>> *Giant dog is friendly? >>> >>> Serious inquiries only please.? >>> >>> ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?. >>> >>> These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.? >>> >>> Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site >>> >>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative >>> has netted $36,422?since?January 2023. >>> >>> BBI?s Mission: >>> Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction >>> between city and suburban families >>> >>> Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here: >>> >>> https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/ >>> ?Warmly, >>> Joanna Owen Schmergel? >>> 617-645-9059 >>> [email protected] >>> pronouns: she/her/hers >>> The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3) >>> >>> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) >>> >>> Boston Bridges Initiative? >>> >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | >>> | | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Boston Bridges Initiative >>> >>> >>> | | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was >>> originally started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, >>> Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 >>> from 2017 to 2022). >>> >>> As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston: >>> >>> https://www.cbsnews.com/boston... >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/c1fac885/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_4126.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 2739725 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/c1fac885/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:00:00 -0500 >>> From: Ran Cronin <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] December Happenings at the Lincoln Public >>> Library >>> Message-ID: >>> <cah+owxgikrtponkwqcjio3avfzvukwlkkfr+s_b4wfm00vx...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Here are just a few of the many events happening at LPL in December: >>> >>> The Nutcracker: A Preview >>> >>> Friday, December 1, 4-5 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-nutcracker-a-preview-3/>Join >>> us for a reading of The Nutcracker geared to young children accompanied by >>> dancers from the Commonwealth Ballet Company acting out some of the parts. >>> Children get to meet the dancers after the reading. >>> >>> The Boston Tea Party: A ?What Was? Book Discussion! >>> >>> Wednesday, December 6, 3-4 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/> >>> >>> Celebrate "America's 250!" Join us for a discussion of the book What Was >>> the Boston Tea Party? to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the notorious >>> Dec 16, 1773 event. Books will be available at the Children's Desk to be >>> read in advance. This event is perfect for families interested in history. >>> Best for ages 6+ but anyone is welcome. Discussion, craft, and light >>> refreshments served. Registration is limited to 30 for this >>> discussion. Register >>> here >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/> >>> ! >>> >>> VIRTUAl Boston Tea Party at the 250th Anniversary >>> >>> Thursday, December 7, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/>This >>> year marks the 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, a political >>> protest that occurred on December 16, 1773 in Boston. Bringing vividly to >>> life the diverse array of people and places that the Tea Party brought >>> together ? from Chinese tea-pickers to English businessmen, Native American >>> tribes, sugar plantation slaves, and Boston?s ladies of leisure ? >>> Professor Benjamin >>> L. Carp will share with us how a determined group of New Englanders shook >>> the foundations of the British Empire, and what this has meant for >>> Americans since. >>> >>> Benjamin L. Carp is the Daniel M. Lyons Professor of American History at >>> Brooklyn College and teaches at the Graduate Center of the City University >>> of New York. His latest book is The Great New York Fire of 1776: A Lost >>> Story of the American Revolution. He also wrote Defiance of the Patriots: >>> The Boston Tea Party and the Making of America (Yale, 2010), which won the >>> Cox Book Prize from the Society of the Cincinnati in 2013, and Rebels >>> Rising: Cities and the American Revolution (Oxford, 2007). Register here! >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/> >>> >>> LOMA Open Mike featuring Geoff Goodhue & Friends >>> >>> Tuesday, December 12, 7-10 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/loma-open-mike-featuring-geoff-goodhue-friends/>Raised >>> in Boxford, Massachusetts, Geoff graduated from Ohio University in 2004 >>> with a B.F.A. in Percussion Performance and currently lives in Jackson, New >>> Hampshire. His family outfit, The Goodhues Band, was featured at the 2016 >>> Mountain Laurel Autoharp Gathering. Come listen to Geoff and his friends! >>> LOMA is a monthly open mike night event. For a slot, performers should >>> email Rich Eilbert at [email protected] (before noon of the open-mike day) >>> or sign up at the event. >>> >>> Gingerbread Fun! >>> >>> Wednesday, December 12, 4-5:30 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/gingerbread-fun-2/>Get >>> into the holiday spirit with gingerbread stories and cookie decorating! All >>> materials will be provided. Intended for children aged 5+. Register is >>> required. Register by emailing [email protected]. >>> >>> VIRTUAL Brain Health with Dr. Jonathan Rosand >>> >>> Thursday, December 14, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/>Join >>> us for a talk about brain health with Critical Care Neurologist Jonathan >>> Rosand, MD. Dr. Rosand?s talk will focus on brain care and brain health >>> prevention, with a specific focus on lifestyle behaviors and modifications >>> that can help one delay or prevent the incidence of dementia and late in >>> life depression. He?s spoken about this topic many times over the years, >>> and will have a series of slides to share and time for questions at the >>> end. Register here! >>> >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/> >>> >>> A Gathering of Celtic and Christmas with Jeff Snow >>> >>> Friday, December 15, 12:30-1:30 PM at Bemis Hall, Council on Aging & Health >>> Services >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/a-gathering-of-celtic-and-christmas-with-jeff-snow/>Join >>> us for a celebration of Celtic and Christmas music at Bemis Hall, Council >>> on Aging & Health Services! Jeff Snow is a talented multi-instrumentalist >>> who plays the music and tells the stories behind the songs. He plays six >>> and twelve string guitar, autoharp, Celtic Bouzouki & Bodhran. Learn more >>> about Jeff?s music at his website, jeffsnow.net, and come hear him play! >>> >>> Lincoln Film Society Presents The Icestorm (1997, R) >>> >>> Thursday, December 21, 6-8 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/lincoln-library-film-society-64/> >>> >>> ?In the 1970s, an outwardly wholesome family begins cracking at the seams >>> over the course of a tumultuous Thanksgiving break. Frustrated with his >>> job, the father, Ben (Kevin Kline), seeks fulfillment by cheating on his >>> wife, Elena (Joan Allen), with neighborhood seductress Janey (Sigourney >>> Weaver). The family's strained relations continue to tighten until an ice >>> storm strikes.? Some films may not be suitable for patrons under the age of >>> 16. Sign up for the mailing list here >>> <https://c45b8245.sibforms.com/serve/MUIFAGC-bWE9p6L6ouTPFdRYv4UT7Ul5jXigcFFTvq1jtppHhQdYAdo2C40AdxHsVn993vxhMwlRKfkOVFQumgxrJbYLbDjxuo1eUT_des9jgZPq0VWsY118_x16XBUmUEZ5upGYah59OdZkI6eYm5Hg0YH9_ZtkCKx_tsrnrnLx_kNHwDQIMyex37rE4q4hWApA-_hCsiEeC5x4> >>> . >>> >>> Winter Musics and Muffins >>> >>> Friday, December 29, 10:30-11 AM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library >>> <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/winter-movies-and-muffins-3/> >>> >>> Come watch winter themed film versions of classic picture books and enjoy >>> muffins and juice. Intended for children ages 2+. No registration required. >>> >>> Looking for more events at the Library? >>> >>> Library Linc <https://loom.ly/MSCnfGE> is our new weekly e-newsletter. >>> Subscribe to keep up to date on our latest events, services, and news every >>> Friday! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ran Cronin >>> Assistant Director >>> Lincoln Public Library <https://www.lincolnpl.org/> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/bb84d581/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:59:53 -0500 >>> From: Stephen Dirrane <[email protected]> >>> To: Edwina Lincoln <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Free stone dust >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Hello LincolnTalk, >>> >>> It?s been an age old tradition in our family to give out stone dust on >>> Thanksgiving. We have 2-3 yards or prime Cavechios stone dust, buttery >>> smooth, which we?d love to share, just as the Wampanoag shared with the >>> Pilgrims. >>> >>> Either email or text me at (978) 369-0024 if interested. And have a lovely >>> Thanksgiving. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Stephen Dirrane >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:38:20 -0500 >>> From: Edward Young <[email protected]> >>> To: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>> project? >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Andy Wang wrote of my post about the Select Board?s November 16 mailing: >>> ?Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. " >>> >>> But the PROMINENCE with which the various numbers are presented to the >>> voters is the ENTIRE point of my post. Why are the most important numbers >>> buried, or not included at all, and an extraneous number highlighted? >>> >>> In fuller detail: >>> >>> 1. The information most critical to town citizens about the tax effects of >>> each of the three proposals they are being asked to vote upon, which have >>> proposed costs of $12.5M, $18.75M and $25M respectively, is presumably what >>> percentage increases in their taxes are estimated for each price point. >>> That is certainly the first thing I would want to know. These percentages >>> are nowhere disclosed in the mailing. Why were these numbers not the >>> numbers most prominently set forth? Why were they not included at all? >>> >>> 2. Yes, a useful way of illustrating these percentage increases would be to >>> translate them into dollar amounts for a Lincoln home of median value. But >>> the fourth page merely says ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $773 increase,? ?TAX IMPACT: >>> Up to $541 increase,? and ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $387 increase? without saying >>> that these numbers are for a median home and that for half the town >>> residents the dollar amount would necessarily be larger than the ?Up to? >>> amount. Also it is not disclosed there that the increase would be in effect >>> for decades, not for a single year. Why was not clearer language such as >>> ?ANNUAL TAX IMPACT FOR MEDIAN HOME? used instead of ?TAX IMPACT: Up to >>> $773 increase?? Doesn?t that wording imply that nobody would have an >>> increase greater than $773? >>> >>> 3. Later on, you can find a reference that the tax impact number is per >>> median home if you read the tiny type on the fifth page. This illustrates >>> my point about prominence of disclosure. >>> >>> 4. Later on, the sixth page sets forth tables of numbers for hypothetical >>> amounts of borrowings at price points that bear no relation to the proposed >>> costs for the project, so that voters must calculate the necessary >>> adjustments to the real numbers for themselves, assuming that the entire >>> cost of the project is to be bonded and the debt service paid entirely by >>> future taxes. How does using hypothetical amounts rather than the actual >>> proposed amounts aid the readers? understanding? And why is the >>> hypothetical dollar amount, which is far less than any of the proposed >>> project costs, the one that gets highlighted by itself in the left hand >>> column? Voters don?t need to know the dollar amount for a hypothetical >>> $10M, they need to know the actual dollar amounts for the actual price >>> points they are voting on. >>> >>> 5. There is a reference to a "Stabilization balance" of $5.5M but no >>> explanation is provided as to what this term means or how it relates to the >>> cost of the project. If it is meant to imply that some portion of the >>> project cost may be paid out of existing town funds, it should also be >>> pointed out that those funds came from past taxes and that any other uses >>> to which they would otherwise have been put would need to be funded from >>> future taxes. >>> >>> 6. One would expect that the most important information for voters would be >>> highlighted by presenting it (for example) in the largest type size, in >>> boldface, on the stand-alone page with lots of white space that is >>> captioned ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT.? Instead, the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page >>> does not mention either the estimated percentage increases in everybody?s >>> tax bill or the estimated dollar amounts for a median home; instead, the >>> dollar amount most prominently displayed on the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page >>> is a number for the tax impact of servicing a hypothetical amount of debt >>> ($10M) that is lower than any of the costs proposed for the project >>> ($12.5M. $18.75M and $25M). Please explain why that number is highlighted >>> while some (but not all) of the numbers corresponding to the actual >>> proposed costs are set forth elsewhere in smaller non-bold type on densely >>> packed pages and without any of the necessary explanation provided on the >>> later pages. >>> >>> Those are the kinds of questions that I know the Securities and Exchange >>> Commission staff would raise if a company presented numbers in a draft of a >>> document in the manner presented in the November 16 mailing. The SEC folks >>> definitely recognize that the prominence with which data catches the >>> reader?s eye, and the orderliness with which the information is presented, >>> is every bit as important as whether everything gets printed in small print >>> somewhere in the document. (And of course the estimated percentage >>> increases in everybody?s tax bill are not presented at all). >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/7fb55c7b/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:04:16 -0500 >>> From: Karla Gravis <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>, [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>> project? >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAPP=LegkTOeO-4TuUyZ2V4_0u4jZSb-D1WRR-A1m=vojkzq...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and >>> consistent.? is quoted in the email below. >>> >>> Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact is >>> mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be >>> ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page >>> that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger >>> than anywhere else. >>> >>> Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than >>> those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there >>> should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned. >>> >>> A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17 >>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>>> project? >>>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]> >>>> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as >>>> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also >>>> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of >>>> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also >>>> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the >>>> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, >>>> $20M, $25M) of a CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. >>>> >>>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are >>>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the >>>> three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the >>>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. >>>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your >>>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. >>>> >>>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >>>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. >>>> >>>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax >>>>> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >>>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >>>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far LOWER >>>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals, >>>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >>>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to >>>>> $773 >>>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >>>>> >>>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >>>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, >>>>> on >>>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of >>>>> ?up >>>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >>>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >>>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >>>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >>>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >>>>> >>>>> Edward Young >>>>> Bedford Road >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >>>> . >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/5d6f8f04/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_5450.jpg >>> Type: image/jpg >>> Size: 985832 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/5d6f8f04/attachment-0001.jpg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:23:13 -0500 >>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]> >>> To: Karla Gravis <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>> project? >>> Message-ID: >>> <caefvrnfeohxjcvlb8+nvtzhlassxlogesetzc06yswnt7lu...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Nope, you're correct. The values reported on that page are insufficiently >>> labeled. I missed that page and stand corrected. >>> >>> - Andy >>> >>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 3:04?PM Karla Gravis <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and >>>> consistent.? is quoted in the email below. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact >>>> is mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be >>>> ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page >>>> that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger >>>> than anywhere else. >>>> >>>> Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than >>>> those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there >>>> should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned. >>>> >>>> A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Andy Wang <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17 >>>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>>>> project? >>>>> To: Edward Young <[email protected]> >>>>> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as >>>>> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also >>>>> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of >>>>> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also >>>>> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the >>>>> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, >>>>> $20M, $25M) of a CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. >>>>> >>>>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are >>>>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the >>>>> three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the >>>>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. >>>>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your >>>>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. >>>>> >>>>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >>>>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. >>>>> >>>>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected >>>>>> tax impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >>>>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >>>>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far >>>>>> LOWER >>>>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the >>>>>> proposals, >>>>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >>>>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to >>>>>> $773 >>>>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >>>>>> >>>>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >>>>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, >>>>>> on >>>>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of >>>>>> ?up >>>>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >>>>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >>>>>> information. >>>>>> >>>>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >>>>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >>>>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >>>>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Edward Young >>>>>> Bedford Road >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/3bf5e955/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_5450.jpg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 985832 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/3bf5e955/attachment-0001.jpg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 18 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:13:35 -0500 >>> From: Cris Ratiner <[email protected]> >>> To: LincolnTalk Listserve <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Posting for teenager: kids books for sale >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi Lincoln, >>> >>> My son, now a sophisticated high schooler, has pared through his voluminous >>> bookshelves. He would like to make a few dollars toward his school band >>> trip and offers the following collections for a small amount. I can vouch >>> for the fact that these are all in good condition, having been read once at >>> most. (Full disclosure: we have a dog, but no cats or mold in the house). >>> >>> Happy Thanksgiving! >>> >>> Cris Ratiner >>> >>> >>> >>> GERONIMO STILTON COLLECTION: $35 >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_1573.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 207270 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/4a9d5615/attachment-0008.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> MO WILLEMS trilogy: $5 >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_1572.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 180528 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/4a9d5615/attachment-0009.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> COLLECTION OF NEWBURY AWARD WINNERS and/or. 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Nate Borgatze.? Enjoy... don't worry no profanities! >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwfL1gJ4jw >>> >>> >>> Terri Kafina. :) >>>> On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:48:19 AM EST, Sara Mattes >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I suggest you put LincolnTalk in the search function, scan and delete in >>> one fell swoop.In the alternative, subscribe for the digest format and it >>> will arrive as a package- easy to digest?as I pray the meal we will >>> probably stuff ourselves with is too.? >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> ? >>> You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week >>> packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a >>> retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning.? >>> It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this >>> Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean >>> that someone else does not.? >>> Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM >>> To: Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>> Cc: John Mendelson <[email protected]>; LincolnTalk >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?Happy Thanksgiving >>> Lincoln! >>> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button.? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Scott Clary >>> 617-968-5769 >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors??? >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.? >>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >>> keep coming. Help admin! >>> Donald >>> Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Lincoln <[email protected]> on >>> behalf of John Mendelson <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >>> To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?We are all lucky to live >>> here.? Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>> John-- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/e1b16c97/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 21 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:40:02 -0600 >>> From: Richard Theriault <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Sale: Men?s MOTO snowboard boots size 11.5. >>> Very good condition. $40 >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGhv85Cg3FY8PGAOsTPo7eVE5h-W490AWY=wwgvynimzaor...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi LT, >>> >>> If interested you can send me a text at 617 438 4315 or email me at >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> Thnx >>> >>> Rich >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/1abedd58/attachment-0001.htm> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: IMG_3787.jpg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 633892 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/1abedd58/attachment-0001.jpg> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 22 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:22:00 -0500 >>> From: Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] non-turkey Thanksgiving >>> Message-ID: >>> <calw-kjustn-rkpsevibn7gzgqfon4uq4095sz+ogrutfhyc...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Dear friends,, >>> In this town of Lincoln, I am a minority Hindu of Indian descent. >>> Hindu is not a prescriptive religion, it is an empirical belief system >>> of acknowledgement. That our existence is a blessing of myriads >>> of other objects and cosmos is the acknowledgement. I will >>> complete twenty years of my residence in Lincoln next April. >>> I thank you all for being good friends, wise neighbors, loving >>> elders and analytic young professionals. Above all, I thank you >>> all for the deep respect to the ground, to the earth. The ground >>> is the core teacher of Hinduism. We dig it, we tear it and it still >>> blesses us with food and shelter. It's the Mother. Let us continue >>> to respect the ground in our own way. Let the ground continue to >>> bless us with her trees, herbs, flowers, animals, birds and insects. . >>> Happy Thanksgiving. >>> Best regards, >>> Bijoy Misra >>> Bedford Road >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/f46b0cc8/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 23 >>> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:42:51 -0500 >>> From: Sara Mattes <[email protected]> >>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Decades, Southern States Considered >>> Thanksgiving an Act of Northern Aggression >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> And we thought our debates over the Community Center and HCA zoning were >>> heated, pumpkin pie seems to have out done us. >>> >>> >>> For Decades, Southern States Considered Thanksgiving an Act of Northern >>> Aggression >>> In the 19th century, pumpkin pie ignited a culture war. >>> >>> https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/thanksgiving-pumpkin-pie-culture-war?utm_source=share_by_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailto_share >>> >>> ------ >>> Sara Mattes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231124/7d59be9f/attachment-0001.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> -- >>> This is the DIGEST of the LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Lincoln Digest, Vol 135, Issue 33 >>> **************************************** >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. 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