Thank you, Rakesh for your eloquent email. There are, in fact, many points about which we agree. I’d like to respond to those that I’ve highlighted in yellow.
Criticizing the actions of Israel, the Israeli military, or the American Israel Political Action Committee is one thing, but I believe we must be circumspect when using rhetoric that could be interpreted as demonizing Zionism itself—especially when it is described (as we’ve seen in GRALTA postings) as conspiracist, or “an expression of neocolonialism, Christian nationalism, and fascism.” This kind of language has a long and painful history, one that includes antisemitic vitriol dating back over a century. As the Institute for Strategic Dialogue notes <https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/from-left-to-right-an-overview-of-the-veiled-antisemitism-threat-landscape-online/>, “Left-wing antisemitism often manifests itself through conspiracy myths alleging that ‘Jews’ or ‘Zionists’ control the media, economy, government, and other institutions for malicious purposes.” I don’t raise this point lightly, but I do think it’s important to note that some of the language we are seeing here on Lincoln Talk is not new—it has been used in deeply harmful ways throughout history. From the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to Soviet-era propaganda <https://fathomjournal.org/soviet-anti-zionism-and-contemporary-left-antisemitism/>and the founding 1988 Hamas Charter <https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp>, this rhetoric has caused immeasurable harm, and I believe it’s worth taking a step back to consider its impact on our community discourse. I’ve shared academic sources a few times on Lincoln Talk to help better elucidate these concerns, and I’ve extended an invitation to discuss these matters further, over tea or coffee. Unfortunately, I haven’t yet received any responses from those defending the use of such rhetoric here in Lincoln. On a broader note, any desire on my part to find alternative channels for this discourse is not a matter of wanting to sweep the issue under the rug, or to shut down discourse. In my local Jewish community, people understand not to discuss these matters in communal spaces where social cohesion matters. Community list-serves are primary among these. Separate email channels are created for people who wish to carry on potentially contentious political conversations not just about Israel (where there is as wide a spectrum of opinion as in Lincoln, although the rhetoric that GRALTA has used is avoided), but about US and world geopolitics as well. Because we know how sensitized people are, how traumatized, and from how many different directions they are being triggered on various issues. We don’t want our community to contribute to that. We want our community to be an antidote to that. We want to nourish that most precious of all resources - a caring community. One solution my community has established, and that has worked very well for years, is to put #POLITICAL at the beginning of emails that have political content that moves beyond local governance. That way, the folks who don’t wish to participate, and who may be triggered even by seeing the emails in their inbox (and there are many people in this boat), can divert the emails from coming into their inbox, while permitting the discourse to flourish among those who wish to engage in it. I’d love to see Lincoln Talk adopt a similar practice. It’s such a simple solution, and I believe it would help preserve the spirit of thoughtful exchange without undermining the very community we’re all working to nurture. Steve > On Jan 20, 2025, at 1:05 PM, Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Rakesh, thanks for your comments. I'll respond inline. > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:26 AM karmachay--- via Lincoln > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I offer here my two cents on the recent discussions regarding the GRALTA >> events… >> >> I attended my first GRALTA Foundation meeting last month. Spurred by the >> discussions in LincolnTalk, I decided to go and listen to the speakers >> myself. It was a full house at Bemis that day and the speakers included an >> American Jew and a Palestinian Christian from Bethlehem. They talked about >> their experiences and gave their perspectives, followed by a round of >> questions and answers. If you were looking for something incendiary or >> bombastic, you would have been disappointed. It was a staid but somber >> presentation. I subsequently attended another GRALTA event – a film that >> focused on the experience of two young American adults who had gone to >> Israel and came back with a different perspective of what was going on in >> Israel. It was poignant but I did not see or hear anything that remotely >> indicated incitement for hatred of Jews. > > Nobody said that Israelism incited hatred of Jews. Israelism falsely accuses > Israel of apartheid, and falsely claims that Jews are not indigenous to > Israel. > > I also never said that Mazin Qumsiyeh would speak bombastically. I said that > he publicly supported the October 7th massacre and has published instruction > manuals for the harassment of Jews globally, and I stand by those statements. > >> The events in the last year and a half have been heart-wrenching and have >> brought to fore the tragic situation in the region. Jews and Arabs both live >> with so much pain, fear and uncertainty. The barbaric massacre and >> kidnapping by Hamas on October 7 unleashed a new wave of violence. The names >> and faces of those still held captive are a constant reminder of that tragic >> day. Among the captives is Bipin, a 23-year-old from my home country of >> Nepal. I read about the agony of his family in the Nepali newspapers as they >> await news of his fate and hope for his safe return. In the aftermath of >> this attack, we have seen the relentless bombings unleashed by the Israeli >> government. I am struck by the dehumanization of the Palestinian people and >> our silence in the face of the seeming banality of the Israeli actions, as >> people squabble about whether the death toll is 40,000 of if the reports are >> inflated and the toll is only 30,000. > > I appreciate your care for Israelis and Gazans, but you only have half a > solution. What are the responsibilities of Hamas and the people of Gaza? They > are people, too, and they also have the power to make decisions about the > future of Jews and Arabs. Can you think of any decisions that Hamas or the > people of Gaza might have taken over the past 15 months to end the war and > prevent the suffering of both sides? > >> Attempts to silence criticism of the Israeli government’s actions and to >> prevent expression of different perspectives on the conflict by demonizing >> them as antisemitic are troubling to me. The seam of antisemitism runs deep >> in the American and European societal fabric. Trying to drown out >> disagreeable views by labeling them as antisemitic trivializes the >> seriousness of antisemitism and runs the risk diluting the cause - akin to >> the boy who cried wolf. The rise in antisemitism in the US is real, as has >> been documented over the last two decades by organizations like the Southern >> Poverty Law Center. The real serious threats reside in the rise of the >> far-right neo-Nazi groups, both in the U.S. and in Europe. The current >> unholy alliance of the pro-Israel lobby with the far-right for the sake of >> political expediency may lead to short-term gain but it will lead to >> indelible harm to the fight against antisemitism in the long run. I am >> reminded of Martin Niemöller’s refrain as I view the current situation with >> the far right along the lines of “First they came for the Arabs…”. > > Nobody is silencing criticism of the actions of the Israeli government or of > Hamas. I have objected and will continue to object to content that aims to > delegitimize the equal rights of the Jewish people to self-determination and > to political power. > > I would like to see a citation for your claim that support for equal rights > for Jews is a "far right" issue. Support for equal rights for Jews is a > concept that has broad appeal left, right, and center: Ritchie Torres (D-NY) > and Ted Cruz (R-TX) agree on virtually nothing, but they both strongly > believe that Jews deserve the same rights as other people. > > Finally, while far-right antisemitism is also real and important, it has been > eclipsed over the past year by far-left antisemitism and Islamic > antisemitism. The young tiki torch marchers of Charlottesville in 2017 are > the keffiyeh-clad college students of 2024. > >> These are difficult and complex topics that engender strong emotions and do >> not lend themselves to quick one-line answers. Discussion in email and >> online boards often degenerate into acerbic language and hurt feelings, as >> we ascribe tone and facial expressions to the words that we read. In-person >> meetings present the opportunity for more civil and fruitful discussions, >> even though that there will be differences in opinion. I firmly believe that >> most of us, if not all of us, mean well and want to do good and help >> alleviate the suffering of others, though we may have different ideas on >> what to do and how to do it, >> >> I laud Steve and Barbara Low for their attempts to give voice to the >> voiceless and provide a platform for perspectives of those who are deeply >> involved in the Holy Land, as the Lows call it. There is a range of opinions >> and perspectives on these issues among the Jewish people. I had not met >> Steve and Barbara before, but I found them to be reasonable, thoughtful and >> kind. The motto that the GRALTA Foundation highlights is "Equal Rights for >> Equal People", as they clearly expound on their website >> https://gralta.org/about-gralta/. Steve talked about how he visits Yad >> Vashem during every trip to Israel and spends time in the section for the >> Righteous Among the Nations, in honor of the non-Jews who took great risks >> to save Jews from the Nazis. I see the Lows’ work along the same vein, as >> Jews trying to lend their hands and voices to non-Jews who are suffering, in >> the hallowed tradition of tikkun olam. >> >> In peace, >> Rakesh >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 18, 2025 at 08:46:55 AM EST, Sara Mattes >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> Unless you have seen these films, you cannot make categorical statements as >> to your interpretation. >> >> I urge all to refrain from commentary unless they are prepared to make >> conclusions. >> >> Commentary and reviews include citing examples from the piece being >> critiqued. >> >> We are savvy enough to do that, aren’t we? >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jan 18, 2025, at 8:42 AM, Margo Fisher-Martin >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >>> My thoughts exactly. Why stop there? I bet we could think of many types of >>> films and presentations that people here in Lincoln would feel strongly >>> about not supporting. As Jonathon and others have stated, these films >>> encourage the hatred of Jews and promote antisemitism. I truly believe in >>> freedom of speech, but if these films were about any of the topics stated >>> below (and I could name many more), then I am sure people would feel >>> differently about watching and “drawing their own conclusions.” >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> >>> Margo Fisher-Martin >>> 14 Giles Rd >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 8:03 AM Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> If movies that promote hatred of Jews via conspiracy theory are worthy of >>> our town, why stop there? Are there any such movies that we would not >>> encourage people to attend? Movies that call for the resumption of human >>> slavery for black people in America? Movies that call for the slaughter of >>> Native Americans? Movies that call for the institutionalization or >>> sterilization of LGBTQ+ people? Movies that call for resuming limits on >>> immigration of Catholics? Movies that call for banning women from the >>> workforce? >>> >>> More plainly, where is our line? Are there any identity groups in Lincoln >>> for whom promoting hatred and bigotry is not ok? >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 7:20 AM Sara Mattes <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> Watching films to determine their message and the underlying implications >>> has been important to understanding history. >>> For me, I have watched more than a few. >>> I could not have understood the depth of deception or truth without doing >>> so. >>> I am sure we are educated and intelligent enough to discern fact from >>> fiction, to process what is useful information…and maybe even learn >>> something new…to draw our own conclusions. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2025, at 6:51 AM, Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I am familiar with the movies >>>> <https://5a55e4ca.streaklinks.com/CSBsdSGXV5g8Gk3CvgTUjXKf/https%3A%2F%2Fpairlist9.pair.net%2Fmailman%2Fprivate%2Flincoln%2F2024-December%2F067572.html>, >>>> including this one. >>>> >>>> This particular movie has nothing to do with the people of Gaza at all. >>>> It's a movie that promotes a conspiracy theory that the Jewish people >>>> "secretly control" the US government. And Mr Low's flier for the film >>>> takes things a step further, implying that Lincoln is also vulnerable to >>>> "secret Jewish control." The movie's conclusion is that people should do >>>> what they can to prevent Jews everywhere from seeking political power like >>>> other identity groups do. >>>> >>>> Would Mr Low and Ms Mattes also encourage us to watch QAnon propaganda >>>> videos, so we can "make up our own minds"? Those videos were also based on >>>> lies, though I've heard that the filmography of them was quite convincing, >>>> leading a lot of people to believe their nonsense. >>>> ᐧ >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 4:59 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> It is the responsibility of those who object to organize/ sponsor/ host >>>> what you describe. >>>> >>>> How can anyone condemn these films without seeing them? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jan 17, 2025, at 4:49 PM, Jane Appell <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you to all who are speaking out very articulately. It is valuable >>>>> to have views aired in the open. I particularly agree with the statement >>>>> that there is a difference between anti semitism and the criticizing of >>>>> Israel's political stance. This dilemma has caused a lot of grief inside >>>>> the liberal Jewish community as well as in the world. We all need to be >>>>> able to think critically, but it is too easy to revert to simplistic >>>>> thinking. >>>>> >>>>> My objection to the particular films that have been shown is that they >>>>> give a partial picture of the entire situation. They not inherently bad >>>>> films, but they miss perspective when shown separately to a group of >>>>> people who may or may not have a well-rounded historical, emotional and >>>>> political perspective of the situation. This is particularly the case >>>>> since October 7 of last year. I believe the films would be more valuable >>>>> as part of a well rounded approach to the Issues that present themselves >>>>> in Israel and Palestine--perhaps a series of films with a variety of >>>>> viewpoints, followed by discussion that can examine all aspects of what >>>>> has been happening. Otherwise these films run the risk of perpetuating a >>>>> black-white view of the situation, which I believe is potentially >>>>> dangerous. >>>>> >>>>> Jane >>>>> Jane Appell, Ph.D. >>>>> 781-259-1049 >>>>> www.janeappell.com <http://www.janeappell.com/> >>>>> >>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information in this transmission is intended >>>>> only for the individual indicated and may include confidential and >>>>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >>>>> hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or the >>>>> taking of any action relevant to the contents of this transmission are >>>>> prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please >>>>> notify the sender. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 3:37 PM Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Definitely skip the "Zionist >>>>> conspiracy theory" movies. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 15:11 Sara Mattes <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> All, >>>>> We have heard from a number of very articulate voices as to concerns over >>>>> the GRALTA series >>>>> Jonathan has told us what he thinks we need to alerted to regarding this >>>>> upcoming movie. >>>>> As Rachel reminds us, this is one voice. >>>>> >>>>> The only way to sort some of the statements out is to go view and >>>>> critique the movies ourselves. >>>>> New aware and be sensitive. >>>>> >>>>> I trust we are educated and sophisticated enough to reach informed >>>>> conclusions on our own. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2025, at 2:32 PM, Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I genuinely appreciate your earnestness, and you make a great point for >>>>>> why anti-Zionism is inherently antisemitic: Criticism of Israel's >>>>>> actions is different from criticizing Israel's right to exist as a >>>>>> Jewish state, which is typically leveled at it only because it is >>>>>> Jewish, as in these movies. >>>>>> >>>>>> A nation is not required to be perfect in order to be legitimate (see: >>>>>> USA, Canada, England, France, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, not to mention >>>>>> China, Syria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc). This is what is so dangerous >>>>>> about these movies and speakers. They criticize not only Israel's >>>>>> actions (in a highly biased and inaccurate way), but also claim that the >>>>>> Jewish people therefore do not deserve equal rights to political power >>>>>> or self-determination the way that other people do. By creating a "Jews >>>>>> bad, Arabs good" narrative, not only do the movies falsely demonize the >>>>>> Jewish people, they rob everyone of the opportunity to take a broader >>>>>> perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is the healthiest back-and-forth we've had on this topic so >>>>>> far. Thanks, Rachel. >>>>>> ᐧ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 2:18 PM Rachel Marie Schachter >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I know you’re not calling for censorship. I do think that some other >>>>>> responses on LincolnTalk were saying this series shouldn’t be allowed to >>>>>> take place. >>>>>> >>>>>> To answer you directly — I believe, and work daily to live into the >>>>>> belief, that any speech or actions against Jewish people based on being >>>>>> Jewish is absolutely wrong, which isn’t anywhere near a strong enough >>>>>> word. I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so I can’t convince you of >>>>>> that over email, and I’m not trying to. >>>>>> >>>>>> When people trying to criticize Israel, a political power, conflate that >>>>>> criticism with demonization of all Jewish people, it delegitimizes any >>>>>> argument being made. Period. There are people advocating for the people >>>>>> of Palestine who are working hard to not do that, and to actively combat >>>>>> it. I was trying to agree as someone who believes in a free Palestine >>>>>> that antisemitism isn’t somehow suddenly fine, and you’re right, a lot >>>>>> of the loudest voices are acting like it is. And I wanted to remind >>>>>> people that no one person is the voice of a movement or viewpoint. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for taking me at face value and having a genuine conversation. >>>>>> That’s all I’m trying to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rachel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 9:15 AM Jonathan Sheffi <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Nobody is calling for censorship. However, these movies (with which I >>>>>> happen to be familiar >>>>>> <https://5a55e4ca.streaklinks.com/CSBsdSG5OfaOo2EhGw6HQr8J/https%3A%2F%2Fpairlist9.pair.net%2Fmailman%2Fprivate%2Flincoln%2F2024-December%2F067572.html>) >>>>>> each promote the delegitimization of equal rights for the Jewish people >>>>>> in different ways, whether opposing their right to free speech, to >>>>>> political power, or to self-determination. And so they are being called >>>>>> out for promoting hatred against a minority group. >>>>>> >>>>>> You say that calling out antisemitism in any movement is important, and >>>>>> I agree with you, but you haven't yet said what that means to you. Which >>>>>> beliefs, speech, or actions against the Jewish people do you oppose, and >>>>>> which beliefs, speech, or actions against the Jewish people do you not >>>>>> oppose? >>>>>> ᐧ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:07 PM Rachel Marie Schachter >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I apologize if this falls in the category of something that shouldn't be >>>>>> continued on LincolnTalk, but I don't want to respond to you privately, >>>>>> Steve (Brown), and have you think that I'm saying something privately >>>>>> that I wouldn't be willing to say publicly. I've also had this general >>>>>> idea floating around my brain for a while, and since I don't know you >>>>>> personally, I think it makes more sense to respond on LincolnTalk. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to acknowledge your pain and trauma, your lived experience, and >>>>>> the very true and real history and present rise in antisemitism in >>>>>> America, including in our town and locally. I truly hope it doesn't make >>>>>> that seem insincere to say I just want to remind people that Steve Low >>>>>> is just one person, GRALTA is just one organization made up of more than >>>>>> one person who I assume don't all share exactly the same viewpoints, and >>>>>> not everyone who believes in a free Palestine (myself included, and I >>>>>> have for a long time) approaches their advocacy with antisemitic >>>>>> rhetoric, by conflating Zionism (which I don't believe has a simple >>>>>> cut-and-dry definition, but I'm also just one person) with the state of >>>>>> Israel with Jewish people in general. Steve Low obviously doesn't >>>>>> believe he's doing that, and I'm not here to argue that one way or the >>>>>> other. There is a ton of antisemitic rhetoric within factions of >>>>>> movements advocating for a free Palestine. It's not every person or >>>>>> every organization, but it absolutely exists, and it shouldn't, and it >>>>>> detracts from everyone's goals because it's deflective and misguided. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my view, true liberation demands calling out antisemitism within any >>>>>> movement, the same way it demands calling out any legitimately harmful >>>>>> rhetoric. I don't believe in censoring the series (for transparency, I >>>>>> haven't seen any of the films) because I don't believe in censorship in >>>>>> general. I just hope it gives literally anyone comfort to be reminded >>>>>> that no one person or group is the face of any movement or outlook, and >>>>>> the loudest voices are very much not necessarily the voice of a >>>>>> majority, let alone a consensus. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rachel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 10:23 PM S Brown <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> As we ponder the implications of the question raised in the message >>>>>> below: “Could this happen in Lincoln?”, we might also consider once >>>>>> again how antisemitic rhetoric has become normalized in Lincoln. The >>>>>> implication is that a Zionist conspiracy is encroaching dangerously upon >>>>>> our town, seeking to control the media, the educational system, and the >>>>>> government. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who don’t see how disturbingly insensitive, offensive, >>>>>> inflammatory and utterly frightening this sort of rhetoric is to so many >>>>>> Jews in this town, I weep. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those like my family, who have long had our children under armed >>>>>> guard at their schools, camps, and places of worship, who have been so >>>>>> repeatedly traumatized by events over the course of the last 15 monhts, >>>>>> and who feel so deeply the pain of all those who have suffered in the >>>>>> war, I weep even more, as I see this town we love, once a sanctuary, >>>>>> succumb to a venomous rhetoric that is poisoning our community, and >>>>>> labels us as the enemy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Brown >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Stephen R. Low" <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Reminder: GRALTA's Israel-Palestine Film Series >>>>>>> continues on Thursday (Jan 16) and Sunday (Jan 19) >>>>>>> Date: January 15, 2025 at 7:03:36 PM EST >>>>>>> To: "Lincoln Talk" <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The GRALTA Foundation screens the second film in our winter film series >>>>>>> The Lobby-USA (Part 1), a 2017 documentary produced by Al Jazeera >>>>>>> Investigations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “A superb undercover investigation” >>>>>>> ~ Middle East Monitor ~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Two screenings in Lincoln, MA—a weekday evening and a Sunday afternoon. >>>>>>> Thursday, January 16 at 7 PM at Bemis Hall, 15 Bedford Road >>>>>>> Sunday, January 19 at 2 PM at the Lincoln Public Library, 3 Bedford Road >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 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