I think QLD tested the pedestrian crossing sensors. May beĀ  better if defaults to pedestrian crossing and cars trigger change - that way drivers would be prepared to stop.

The beg buttons were turned off. Advertised as being for COVID - but they turned off long before so as not to hold up cars.

The SCATS system is owned by the Australian <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia> state of New South Wales <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales>, whose state capital is Sydney <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney>. In December 2019, Transport for NSW <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_for_NSW>, the transport and road agency in New South Wales, began to look into commercialising the SCATS system.^[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Coordinated_Adaptive_Traffic_System#cite_note-1>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Coordinated_Adaptive_Traffic_System

Marghanita

On 28/9/22 13:28, Harry McNally wrote:
There's an idea for LIDAR or a vision system observing from within pedestrian crossing button boxes that detects stationary or pedestrian speed objects in the crossing zone. The options for the traffic lights are to transition to red until the pedestrian (or wildlife) clears or flash the orange light to alert drivers. Manufacturing scale for new vehicles must reduce the technology cost.

The buttons in WA are getting contact free IR sensors (because COVID I think) so there is potential for a smarter pedestrian buttons.

On 28/9/22 10:38, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
Interesting Harry,

It was the crossing points which I think we could do with better lighting for pedestrian safety and drivers to take caution. Even pedestrians at traffic lights are very poorly lit.

One little factoid is that the Annandale Borough argued the lights would be on every night when the switch from gas to electricity occurred. Gas lights were not turned on during a full moon and in those days they were probably more for pedestrians and there were less private vehicles. The Annandale Town Clerk - Golden Hinsby was killed by a driver while crossing Parramatta Road.

Marghanita

On 28/9/22 10:50, Harry McNally wrote:
Hi Marghanita

I wondered for a while about the opposite of RayBans call NightBrites(tm) so even pedestrians don't need street lights. Energy saved, no poles to crash into, light pollution avoided, happy astronomers and wildlife.

On 28/9/22 08:27, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
It would be good if street lights were no longer needed to light up the road (for cars) but were focussed on pedestrian safety instead.

On 28/9/22 07:53, Tom Worthington wrote:
On 24/9/22 20:09, Stephen Loosley wrote:

Hopes glow-in-the-dark roads could reduce road toll in rural Victoria

ABC Gippsland / By Natasha Schapova Thursday 22 Sep 2022 ...

And cars with night vision head-up displays? ;-)

More seriously, onboard driver aids which check the driver is paying attention would be far more effective. ANU spinoff Seeing Machines make a device to check the driver is looking out the window. This is now installed in some up-market cars: https://blog.tomw.net.au/2017/12/canberra-start-up-overnight-success.html

Other aids which steer cars around bends have shown their worth. https://www.drive.com.au/news/lane-keeping-assist-could-be-compulsory-in-australia/

Mercedes actually made an infrared camera equipped car, but of questionable value: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-reviews/39300/night-vision-mercedes

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