>> On 13 May 2016, at 9:02 AM, Roger Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Is the largest provider in the country utterly incompetent?
>> Or is there something important about Internet architecture that I fail to 
>> understand?

At 9:08 +1000 13/5/16, Avi Miller wrote:
>It's most likely that Telstra are AnyCasting their DNS servers:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast
>Essentially this means that they have a single IP address that is routed to 
>the nearest actual DNS server to the requester. And that there can be lots and 
>lots of backends for this.

Thanks for this!

However, following through to RFC3258
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3258

it seems that redundancy, and hence accessibility when the primary DNS-server 
is unreachable, was *not* a motivation for the application of Anycasting to the 
DNS:
"The primary motivation for the development and deployment of these practices 
is to increase the distribution of Domain Name System (DNS) servers to 
previously under-served areas of the network topology and to reduce the latency 
for DNS query responses in those areas"

And, as I understand it, the first backbone router, where BGP comes into play, 
should intercept the packet addressed to the Telstra name-server, and 
substitute an IP-address based on its internal table.

If Anycasting is in use, and the Telstra name-servers were unreachable, then 
presumably either the BGP tables were polluted, or *all* of the net-near 
name-servers were out of action.  (Or even *all* of the name-servers were out 
of action, if the process is clever enough to detect that the net-near ones 
aren't responding and then sends packets to net-distant servers).

Either way, it still seems like incompetence on Telstra's part.

(And the speed with which it was fixed suggests that there could have been a 
pre-programmed solution to whatever the underlying cause was, had they bothered 
to implement it).


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