Hi Gordon,

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:54:31AM -0800, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote:

> You can still get Red Hat for free, but it's a partial distribution with few
> or no program products.  And Red Hat has stated that if it can't make money
> it will get back out of the business.

<snip>

> the other distributions like Cayman and Debian.  Red Hat has the whole OCO
> problem with OSA, no support for LVM, and the Beta Oracle will only run on
> SuSE at this time. (We do a LOT of Oracle on VM and Oracle isn't enhancing
> the product for VM/CMS.)

I just have to comment on a few of the issues you raise here.  I admit that
I find your comment about the Red Hat Linux for S/390 product being "a
partial distribution with few or no program products" somewhat bewildering.

As somebody who invested a rather large amount of time in ensuring the Red
Hat Linux for S/390 product offering was comprehensive, well tested,
complete and able to be supported by Red Hat's A-grade global support and
consulting teams, I would be happy to discuss what it is you feel the
product is missing right at this point in time.

If the "no program products" means "no LVM or OSA", then I am sure a
Red Hatter would be more than happy to go through the finer points of these
decisions, and the work-arounds that are available.  Just briefly, let me
clarify:

- Red Hat really looks forward to the time when an LVM implementation is
  ready for real-world enterprise use.  As soon as that time comes, you can
  be sure that LVM will be available to all our customers.  Until then, you
  still have RAID (md) support enabled in the kernel and installer (TUI and
  GUI).

- the OSA OCO modules have been released by IBM for the kernel that ships in
  Red Hat Linux for S/390 (2.4.9-17).  See:

  
http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/special_oco_rh_2.4.shtml

  We continue to work with IBM on this matter, and _do_ want the best
  long-term benefit for our valued customers.

- The Red Hat Linux for S/390 product is available in the form of a tree,
  downloadable from:

  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/os/s390/

  This tree is free (in dollar terms) for those who wish to use it.

Red Hat continues to believe in Open Source.  Red Hat continues to want
the very best for its customers (not just the latest and greatest, but
also high quality, reliability and supportability).  Red Hat also listens
to feedback.  Gordon, if you wish to discuss how Red Hat can better help
you, again, feel free to contact me (and the same goes for anybody else).

Regards,


DS..

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