Me too. I spent a good part of my career in VM migrating users and applications off of many VM/IS 9370's onto our big VM/HPO-VMXA-VMESA mainframe. Five or six of them, as I recall. We actually had to do a fast migrate of one in October of 1999 when the user was finally convinced that none of the hardware, operating system, program products or applications were Y2K compliant and they would just STOP in three months. They went from VM/IS (nee VM/SP 5) to VM/ESA 2.3.0. I think that's a jump of something like 9 or 11 releases.
"Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back." -Piet Hein, Journal of Irreproducible Results March, 1971 Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D VM Technical SErvices, The Boeing Company, (425)865-5940 > ---------- > From: Coffin Michael C > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IBM announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > > Hey - I loved VM/IS - I can think of at least 3 or 4 contracts right off > the > top of my head that involved me coming in, ripping out IS and putting in > SP > or HPO! :) > > Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer > Internal Revenue Service - Room 6030 > 1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20224 > > Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-6726 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IBM announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > > > >run Linux under z/VM V4. The comments in the > > announcement about not needing traditional skills... > > > Reminds me of 1987 when IBM announced the 9370 and VM/IS. Ads were > something like "Your Secretary can install it and run it". True. But if > you EVER needed to change it, say to add more DASD or to grant a privilege > to a user, THEN you needed a systems programmer! That's how I got this > job. > > "Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back." > -Piet Hein, Journal of Irreproducible Results March, 1971 > Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D > VM Technical SErvices, The Boeing Company, (425)865-5940 > > > ---------- > > From: Jim Elliott > > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: IBM announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > > > > To clarify some mis-conceptions on the list, you get the full z/VM V4 > > product with the zSeries Linux Offering. As Ross stated, these machines > > only have IFLs and only run in LPAR mode. You can run Linux directly in > > the LPARs or you can run Linux under z/VM V4. The comments in the > > announcement about not needing traditional skills relate to your being > > able to use the "default install" option of z/VM and then using the z/VM > > System Administration Facilty. This is NOT another VIF. > > > > It is my personal expectation that while customers without VM skills > > will start this way, they will quickly want to develop VM skills so they > > can take advantage of the full function provided by z/VM V4! > > > > Regards, Jim Elliott - Linux Advocate, IBM Canada Ltd. > > > > > >
