> > > Yes, there is, but you run into data integrity problems, and data
> > > synchronization problems.   ...
>
> My experience has been different.
> But I understand the point and agree that there is a large exposure.
> Experience from read-only volumes mounted read-write and using the
> older DASD driver would seem to suggest it can get NASTY.
>
>  ...
> > > possibility would be to have multiple copies of /usr, and update the VM
> > > guest's CP directories to point to the most recent one so that when the
> > > system is shutdown, logged off, and back on again, it will pick up the ne
> w
> > > file system.
>
> Or use a DCSS in place of DASD.   ;-)
>
> > >        Unless you're talking about enough images being run that DASD
> > > space is still conserved, it's kind of pointless.
>
> It's not exclusively a resource conservation thing.
> It's also a system management thing.
>
> Say you're migrating from Wintel to L/390.
> If all you do is put N PC workloads into N v-machines
> you haven't reduced any of the manpower load or headache,
> you've blown a good portion of what we could win with zSeries.
>
> Correct:  three images isn't enough to bother sharing.
> Correlation:  three images isn't enough to justify zSeries.
>
> > Could someone with /usr mounted ro try this?
>
> Try which part?   Writing to a volume that is read-only to others?
> Been there;  done that;  and it did not cause me any pain.
> I did NOT run any exhaustive test,  so  "it depends".   ;-)
>
> > mount /usr -o remount,ro
>
> A good thing to do is mount the shared volumes read-only on the master
> and then  'mount /usr -o remount,rw'  when you need to update.
> Hopefully you won't need to do this more than once or twice
> before re-IPLing the sharing systems so that they'll be current.
>


My supposition is that remounting /usr as above will cause it to resync
with what's on the disk. If it works, it will save from the need to
reboot after updating the master.

Mind you, I would recommend doing any when the system's quiet. It's not
just files that will get changed, but directories too, and if some
directory gets put where your guest thinks there's a file (or vice
versa) then things might get chaotic.

Perhaps, on reflection, the idea's not worth much. Something to try
though in a test environment where a system crash won't be painful.



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