On Monday, 09/23/2002 at 10:39 EST, Paul Dieffenbach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Hopefully you saw my previous response to Jeff Davis. Yes, the guest is
> logged off. We see no error messages on the VM console when this
happens.
> We are in the process of setting up RTM,  but otherwise are not far
enough
> along yet to have other tools in place. I've been in touch with Velocity
> and hope to begin a trial of their product next month. I should say we
only
> have 4 guests created so far and have ample memory allocated to the VM
LPAR
> - 6 GB. I of course was hoping this might be a known issue that someone
> else had already encountered or that we were doing something incorrectly
> just due to inexperience.

Paul, here's a set of events which are plausible (unlikely with 6GB and
only 4 guests)
1. The system or I/O subsystem is under stress, things are getting slower
and slower
2. Something take too long (e.g. I/O interrupts) and Linux gets upset and
halts
3. Guest goes into CP READ, starting the default 15-minute "timebomb"
4. After 15 minutes, FORCED BY SYSTEM

The only other case of FORCED BY SYSTEM I've seen is when a network
connection to the virtual console (e.g. telnet) is broken unexpectedly,
causing CP READ.

I don't know of anything other than CP READ which will cause FORCED BY
SYSTEM.  The question is: How did the gueset it get into CP READ?

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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