David, I disagree with your characterization that IBM's certified mainframe development platform costs a "goodly sum a pop". The guy asking the question is the VP Engineering of Sendmail.com, and if his company produces offerings for zSeries, which I believe they do, then they are eligible for a low-cost offering from IBM's Partnerworld program. That program can provide the guy with a Linux-based Thinkpad (2Ghz, 60gig drive, 1 gig RAM), Flex-ES, 3 years of Flex-ES maintenance, loan of z/VM AD-CD's, fully integrated and ready to IPL, all for around $13,000. Details of that offering and server equivalents can be found at:
http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/s390/netfefs.html Click through on the authorized reseller links for specifics and contact info. Peter D. Ward Fundamental Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] 734-665-3520 > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:45:29 -0500 > From: David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Linux under VM on Hercules? > > > 1) Anyone doing this? Does it work OK? Any issues? Which VM release? > > We have tried it for testing purposes -- the "gee, will this work?" kind > of testing -- from VM/370 r6 to z/VM 4.3. All versions of VM/370, VM/SP, > VM/XA, VM/ESA, and z/VM will IPL and and seem to run fine within the > limits of the "not heavily stressed, gee will this work?" constraint. > > > 2) How did you license the VM release? Issues with that? > > Here's the rub. You can't. IBM won't license code for Hercules, you > cannot use PID or other licenses on Hercules, and other than playtime > uses like above, you can't legitimately do anything with Hercules and > licensed code. Even the playtime use is a grey area, and closer to > black than white. > > The only sub-100 MIPS platforms which you can legitimately get a license > on which to run real work is the FlexES derived systems. At a goodly sum > a pop. > > There has been discussion of a hobbyist license for various IBM > operating systems, but there is nothing official. This would be a very > desirable thing -- it made DEC a ton of money for VMS and RT-11, and it > would be a great way to boost interest in the platform. > > -- db > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:45:28 -0500 > From: Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Linux under VM on Hercules? > > > 64-bit Linux doesn't IPL under 64-bit VM
