Hello from Gregg C Levine It seems I've gone and done it again. Fast work, Jon Doyle, on putting that together. ------------------- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."� Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )
> -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Jon R. Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Another distribution question > > We do certifiy through normal QA process SuSE SLES, RH Adv Srv for example > on Intel systems, and SuSE SLES on zSeries, this is the commercial > products, and I mention this because the thread started about Oracle from > what I read. Oracle has several levels from what I remember, one called > Validation like here: > > http://www.suse.com/en/business/certifications/certified_software/oracle /certified.ht > ml > > SAP has something similar to the above, I even rememebr one tech doc > telling you to put a SuSE Kernel on top of a Redhat install to be > certified. > > Most ISVs IMHO need to protect themselves somewhat on Linux because it is > a platform that can have any level of changes applied at the end-user > level. Meaning, we know what Solaris level or NT level works through QA > processes, but what if somebody calls me and says I am running SuSE SLES > with 2.4.18, but I find they have patched the kernel with pre-emptive > stuff, or any number of things that seemed interesting in the dev > community, or say new glibc, and now Sendmail filters or something are not > working correctly. So you see we have to pick certain levels of the > platform and QA that and call it "known to work". You find an issue, we > can reproduct that internally on the same platform, much more reasonable > to keep quality control. > > Most HW vendors also certify against known version levels too, obviously > for driver sakes, in fact I have heard rumour once that Compaq did more QA > of Linux for that very reason than the Linux vendor themselves. > > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/linux/hpLinuxcert-dl.html > > > Regards, > > Jon > > Jon R. Doyle > Sendmail Inc. > 6425 Christie Ave > Emeryville, Ca. 94608 > > > (o_ > (o_ (o_ //\ > (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ > > > > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote: > > > Hello from Gregg C Levine > > Something else we need to consider here. Why would each distributor > > actually distribute the freely available version of say, sendmail, and > > not insist on certification for it? John, if it wasn't certified then, > > it sure as taxes is now. > > ------------------- > > Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi > > "Use the Force, Luke."� Obi-Wan Kenobi > > (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) > > (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of > > > John Summerfield > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:10 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Another distribution question > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Dave Jousma wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks all for the responses. For us, this is a chicken and egg > > thing. > > > > We are just testing the waters, so to speak, so we are not ready to > > > > call any vendor(s) to see if they will play in the 390 environment. > > > > You have answered my question, though. The 3rd party app must > > > > specify z/series or S390 as a platform, and if not, then it is not > > > > compatible(at this time). > > > > > > I know some folk value certification, but I wonder. Some time ago a > > > local business would not run Oracle on Linux "because it's not > > > certified." > > > > > > It was actually available and it ran fine. > > > > > > Take a look at the software you run: > > > Is Samba certified? > > > Is Sendmail/Postfix/Exim? > > > > > > So far as I know, _none_ of the hardware I run Linux on is certified. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > John. > > > > > > Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at > > > http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb > >
