On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 02:06:33 +0100, Herbert Szumovski wrote:

>to run redundant big sized applications.  You are right: people will develop
>for Linux then, if they can't get a mainframe OS easily, but why is IBM
>whining then about diminishing mainframe business ?

Because they sell hardware. Which is also undoubtedly why they have embraced
Linux on the mainframe the way they have.

>  I don't care to much about z/OS (though it would be fun to run it on a
>PC as hobbyist), but if z/VM should be sold as Hypervisor for Linux/390,
>then there should be definitely a way, where people can try that at home if
>they like.

Why exactly? why not just use Hercules to run Linux/390 - that's what I do,
and it works great.

>  Now try to sell Linux/390 on a z/Box to a service provider, who wants to run
>e.g. 40 servers.  Nearly nobody wants z/VM, the "dinosaur operating system".
>  99% of their arguments go away immediately, when I can show them on the PC,
>how it works and how easy I can clone a Linux server.
>  That's one of the reasons why I want to have z/VM on my laptop, many others
>have already been mentioned.

And as others will point out too, there are people and companies out there that
cater to that need. You have a business-case, and the $13k should not present a
problem.

/Per


regards,
Per Jessen, Zurich
http://www.enidan.com - home of the J1 serial console.

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.

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