IBM creates customer advisory groups to vet ideas and get feedback on
strategies. The one Phil is referring to is in the NYC area and (as Phil
mentioned) often results in rather frank and to the point feedback on a
number of issues.

>From the meetings I've attended, the attendees tend to be large
organizations, and there has been a lot of very good (and very direct)
critiques of the IBM market strategy (particularly the IBM software
groups) and product offerings.

I broached the idea of targeting LSB as the goal during our discussions,
and there was some interest, but the discussion veered back toward the
support issues and the advantage of a standard platform apparently got
lost in that. We'll see where things are now that most people are back
from the holidays.


-- db

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Post, Mark K
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Update on IBM middleware on Debian/390
>
>
> What is a "zLinux Council?"  I've not heard of that before.
>
> Mark Post
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Tully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Update on IBM middleware on Debian/390
>
>
> David,
> At  the most recent zLinux Council held on December 13th the issue was
> brought up about supporting these software
> items on some  basis other than vendor distribution.  One
> suggestion was
> to use the LSB as a standard and supporting
> the major middleware components on this. IBM seemed receptive
> especially
> when mulitple customers chimed in agreement with
> the suggestion.
>
> I suspect more will be heard, especially if the customers (not the
> vendors) push the point.
>
> This of course started a conversation about LSB on the
> z/Linux platform
>  and where it stands, but that has already been
> discussed on the list.
>
> Phil

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