1) the answer to question one is, we don't know.  We have little batch processing and 
would like what little we have to be real-time, but that is another goal.   So, moving 
out of COBOL and off the mainframe has been part of the discussion.  But, we have a 
new 390 machine, so it would be a shame to not use it. This is a VM/VSE environment.

2)They want the windows application look, they want to get away from the 3270 green 
screen look.

3)we have low java expertise on site.   If fact that is why I think I am having 
problems communicating this, because I am a mainframe person by background.

4)And of course this is a no/low cost situation.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/03 04:26PM >>>
Ah, now that makes more sense. That narrows it does a lot. By the way, that is really 
a good way to go, narrow the applications down
to one or at most two platforms and go from there.

A couple more quick questions:

(1) Where do you want these common applications to be? On the mainframe (in COBOL?), 
or under CICS control, or do you want to shut
down the mainframe and migrate to an alternate platform?

(2) Do you want the applications to look like Windows applications, or like CICS 
"green screen" apps, a Web Application or some
combination? If in combination, roughly what percent goes where?

(3) Do you have Java expertise on site, or wish to develop Java expertise?

(4) Is this a budgeted project, or something you have to pull off as a (no/low) cost 
demo to provide
proof of concept?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: DB2 UDB and Websphere


Okay, here is the situation, we are exploring alternatives.  We have DB2 UDB running 
on a linux server.   We have legacy systems
running under cobol/cics/vsam on a 390. we have access applications with access 
databases on servers.  We want to get to a common
ground.   we have loaded one of our access databases into DB2 UDB, we have also 
downloaded some of our legacy vsam files into DB2
UDB.   Now the question is, what do we use as a common front end.  We want to get to 
some type of web base portal type situation.
I am not sure that I am explaining this very well.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/03 03:34PM >>>
What in particular do you want to do with it? If you are using it in client/server 
mode, then Access, and all that Windows stuff
work just fine. If you want a Web based interface, and WebSphere is too expensive, 
then there are a few dozen
other application servers out there ranging from BEA down to ZOPE and even (gasp!) 
just using CGI based programs
and HTML. :)

 Honestly, I did not mean that to sound as smug as it does, but without a better idea 
of what you are trying to accomplish, it is
like shooting in the dark, at least for me. :)

-Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: DB2 UDB and Websphere


We have just set up DB2 UDB in the linux environment.   We are looking for a new 
front-end.   Thinking about Websphere, we are
currently using Microsoft Access.  I would appreciate any thoughts or solutions that 
have worked for anyone.

Diana Reynolds
City of Rochester

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