John,

In general, they don't have the power to veto contributions.  Since the good
folks in Boeblingen are the architecture maintainers, they have a _lot_ of
influence.  That's true of every kernel developer that's responsible for a
certain area.  Overriding them is done reluctantly, but it has been done in
the past, and it will be done again in the future.  There's just got to be a
really good reason for it.


Mark Post

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From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Patch available to add LOADPARM support to ZIPL


Curiousity question. Why should IBM be able to say what will or will not get
into the zLinux kernel (and this is not even the kernel, but only zipl)? I
am grateful to IBM for the fine work that they have done to make zLinux
available. But I don't think that they should have any sort of "veto" power
over whether a function goes into Linux or not, so long as it does not
violate any IP patents or suchlike. To me, "undocumented" means "use at your
own risk" not "use this and our lawyers will be all over you like a Pit
Bull". Now, having said that, I personally would not use an undocumented
hardware feature for the "stock kernel" simply because it is possible (but
not likely) that IBM might change the instruction or remove it entirely.

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John McKown
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucius, Leland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Patch available to add LOADPARM support to ZIPL
>
>
> My guess?  I haven't a clue, but I'd venture to say...never.  It uses
> undocumented (SERVC) facilities and I don't know if IBM
> "legal" would look
> kindly on that.
>
> Leland

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