No money. "Linux is FREE!" I don't know how our marketting rep talked our
management to getting an IFL and z/VM when we upgraded to our z/800. We have
NO consolidation plans or any other "plan" for how to use Linux/390. Lots of
talk, but no real action at present. The only reason that we are testing
Oracle under Linux/390 is so that the Oracle people can "prove" that the
mainframe is inferior to a "full blown, 8-way" Sun box with ? Gigs of memory
(they are comparing it to a single IFL and 2 Gb of CSTOR + 1Gb of ESTOR
under z/VM).


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chet Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Question about multiple Linux/390 instances under z/VM
>
>
> And if you're going to create multiple images, do yourself a favor up
> front, go ahead and install DIRMAINT. Create a CMS DASD group and a
> Linux DASD group for seamless minidisk allocations. Then talk to your
> IBM rep about a class overviewing z/VM basic's, Linux and cloning.
>
> --- Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 09:13, McKown, John wrote:
> > > I have a general administration / setup question for
> people who are
> > running
> > > multiple Linux/390 systems under z/VM. Do all your Linux instances
> > use the
> > > same virtual addresses for things like DASD, regardless of the
> > actual device
> > > address?
> >
> > Yes.  It may vary by site, but I like to set up a scheme where, for
> > example, 150 is /, 151 is swap, 152 is /usr, 153 is /opt, and 154 is
> > /usr/local, where any guest may or may not have a 153 or 154
> > depending
> > on what it needs to do and whether it needs its own DASD for it (I'm
> > also a big fan of sharing /usr read-only).
> >
> > > Or do you find it "better" to make the virtual DASD address match
> > > the actual device address? I'm tending towards making all
> Linux/390
> > > instances use the same set of virtual DASD addresses,
> which are not
> > even
> > > related to the "real" DASD addresses. I think this would be easier
> > to
> > > maintain and "clone" new instances.
> >
> > It is.
> >
> > >  Do you even try to make the Linux DASD
> > > addresses "look like" the actual device numbers, or do you simply
> > have a
> > > range of virtual DASD addresses that you assign to physical
> > devices. I'm
> > > using MDISK statements for Linux DASD. Basically, so far, I give
> > each
> > > instance (OK, I only have one so far), the entire device
> OTHER THAN
> > the
> > > first cylinder. Sorry, but I don't trust the Linux
> administrator to
> > not
> > > destroy the DASD label, so this protects it from any mistakes. Oh,
> > I'm the
> > > OS/390 and z/VM (new) sysprog. I am familar with Linux on
> Intel and
> > did help
> > > the Linux administrator set up the initial Linux/390
> system because
> > she is
> > > not s390 literate. And I had actually done a SuSE s390 install at
> > home under
> > > Hercules/390. So I was the "expert".
> >
> > This is what I do.  I don't generally like dedicated DASD; let VM
> > manage
> > it, is my usual advice.  The nice thing about VM is that you *don't*
> > have to care about the physical devices; pick a range you
> like, and I
> > tend to think you should pick a range that isn't even close to the
> > real
> > DASD range, so you know, just from the device address/site
> > convention,
> > that you're talking Linux filesystems on minidisks.
> >
> > Adam
>
>
> =====
> Chet Norris
> Marriott International,Inc.
>
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