One point that I seem to find when dealing with Linux memory.  Just how
much?

We keep hearing recommendations of 256 MBs or 560 MBs.  Some of these
recommendations are needed during the install of Linux (Suse likes
memory as it uses a ram disk to start off with).

And yes, Websphere, from what I hear, needs a lot of memory.  Perhaps a
database, depending on the number of requests needs a lot of memory.

But a lot of other stuff, really doesn't seem to need memory.

I've started down a path to see just how little I need.

Using "free" and "vmstat 10 100" I monitor how much virtual memory is
free and how much swap space is used.

With the default Suse 8 distribution, I can IPL and do some work with
16 MBs virtual, without a swap disk.  With a swap disk, I have yet to
hit a large enough work load that I ran out of space.  FTPs, gpg, text
editing, all seem to work fine with 16 MBs virtual.  Perhaps performance
could be better, but, so far, the FTPs and gpg encriptions are basically
a single threaded workload (all running under Regina 'REXX').

Perhaps Samba would need more.  But if it is just using the memory for
cache, just how many users are accessing the same files?  If not a lot,
the cache hit would be low.  Trim down the machine.  Let VMs MDC take
care of cache hits.

Since real memory is my biggest constraint, I want the machines to be
lean, mean, fighting machines.  I don't want them to time out.  But I
don't want taking real storage away for, what turns out to be useless
crap, from affecting my other production machines.

Trim them down.  Monitor with "free" and "vmstat" the space used on the
swap disk.  See how well they run.

Even if you can only trim the Samba machines down to 64 MBs, you can
run another 3, 64 MB machines with the same memory footprint.  TEST
SYSTEMS!  What a concept.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting


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We're running SLES7 and have two Samba servers for our department with
50-75 users, 25GB of disk storage each, and they run very well with only
48M of virtual storage and 128M of V-disk swap.

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discuss people."  - Admiral Hyman Rickover
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> ----------
> From:         Lionel Dyck
> Reply To:     Linux on 390 Port
> Sent:         Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:41 AM
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> Subject:      VM Memory for Samba
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> How much memory should be allocated to a Linux guest by z/VM that is
doing
> only Samba for file serving?
>
> Does it matter how many users?   Est is between 200 and 2000 per
instance.
>
> thx
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