Tom;

Your actually talking about three different things, really, and a bit of over
lap too.  This is high level, and not very detailed:

1.)  X Windows (X11) is a grapchical display environment.

2.)  VNC is not X windows.  It pumps out a display env to a TCP Port.

3.)  cygwin is a UNIX like operating env for Windows.  Part of the UNIX like env
of cygwin, you can install a free version of X windows too.

To run VNC server on the S390, you would likely want X Windows running as well.
Personally, a GUI is not why one typically puts Linux on a mainframe.  I prefer
to run X windows on some other server, and let the big iron do its prescribed
job and not bother it with graphical work.


It sounds like you already have people using X windows for other efforts.  If
that is the case are they using it from Windows? or UNIX? The licensing of X
Windows for MS Windows can be costly.  The two leaders in that market are
Hummingbird, and Reflections X.


Does this help?  Let me know if I you need any more info.



Cheers;

E!

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Eric Wilson
IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert
RedHat Certified Engineer

Anheuser-Busch Companies, Inc.
One Busch Place
1CC-8
St. Louis, MO



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Duerbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X11 vs VNC


I'm getting too many people talking at me....so it's time to bring it
out to the people that are in the "know".

Some of our Linux users want to use the X11 interface to access
Linux/390 (Suse 8 under z/VM).  Some of them have software already
installed on their Windows PCs and use it for other platforms.  Others
just need software installed.  And I have to have a X11 server
installed.

Now that I'm on Suse 8, and the install method kind of force the issue,
I have VNCSERVER installed.  On the PC, I have vncviewer installed.  It
seems to me that I have a X11 interface running.

But I'm told by some folks here, that that isn't X11, vnc isn't
compatable with X11 and there is different software for X11.

I've been told that I need a product such as "cygwin".  I've gone to the
website and when I try to download it, boy is there a lot of stuff that
would be downloaded.  (perhaps I got the options wrong...I just took
whatever defaults there was)  This makes me believe that cygwin and
vncviewer are quite different animals.

Any comments?

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting
(trying to limit the number of packages installed, and maintained that
do the same thing)

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