Without knowing what you did and where it is hard to comment.
David
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David,
I am confused here. I am very new to this Linux stuff admittedly.
Just installed RedHad 9 on a lap top in the last month. Have this
young guy here who has "grown up" on Linux. With his help after
the install, I went to a site, entered a command (RPM) with some
flags, then did various apt get commands. SO, am asking what am
I missing in your statement below? It appears to me that apt-get
also works for RedHat.
At 08:26 AM 6/19/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>No, apt-get only comes with Debian and Debian derived distributions (e.g.
>Knoppix) . It relies on a repository format for holding all the DEB files
>on central servers and Redhat and SuSE do not provide such repositories.
>Apt-get removes what is for other distributions usualy a manual process -
>dependancy resolution.
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>David
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> Tom Duerbusch
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>Ok, but what I really haven't caught on to yet, is apt-get available for
>Suse Linux or is the utilities that come with Suse that do the comprable
>things...better?
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>BTW, at 7:45 PM, it looks like the Suse website is cleared sufficient
>for me to get a wack at it.
>
>Tom Duerbusch
>THD Consulting
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>David Goodenough wrote:
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> >Your understanding of apt-get is not quite right.
> >
> >The Debian equivalent of rpm is dpkg, both deal with the installation,
> >upgrade and removal of packages.
> >
> >The equivalent of Yast in the Debian world is either dselect or tasksel,
>or
> >if you are using KDE then kpackage can front either rpm or dpkg.
> >
> >apt-get is all about resolving dependancies, and given a knowledge of
what
> >is currently available from the repositories and what is installed,
>working
> >out what needs to be downloaded in order to install or update a given
item
> >or to update those items already installed. This does not quite exist
in
> >the rpm system, even with Yast as its front end. It is this function
>which
> >makes Debian worth having - no more dependacy hell.
> >
> >David
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> > Tom Duerbusch
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> >Now I think I know what apt-get does. It seems to be a Debian version
> >of RPM (for Redhat and Suse), which, I think, YaST is a nice shell
> >around RPM (for Suse users).
> >
> >So apt-get and RPM are command line versions with YaST being an
> >interactive frontend.
> >
> >For those keeping track with the home version, I've been downloading
> >for 28 hours and have obtained 3.97 MBs so far from the Suse Maintenace
> >Web site.
> >
> >I now see the need for what I assume most shops are doing, of
> >automatically downloading new Suse material every night. Rather have
> >the machine do the retrys, instead of me.
> >
> >Perhaps Suse should go back to sending out quarterly CDs if they don't
> >want to beef up their electronic distribution system.
> >
> >A few weeks ago, I started the query on how Penguin Farms (Penguins
> >don't live on farms, they live off the ice shelf on the ocean. Perhaps
> >Penguin Farms should be Sea of Penguins?), anyway, how sites with
> >multiple Linux systems, keeps their systems up to date and at the same
> >maintenance levels. Like download everything from Suse and your images
> >are updated from your site. It seems to me that YOU from the Suse site,
> >is pretty much unreliable and a failure.
> >
> >
> >
> >Tom Duerbusch
> >THD Consulting
> >
> >
> >apt-get and jigdo are both nice to help. I presume most are familiar
> >with what apt-get does.
> >
> >
> >
Brian W. France
Systems Engineer I
Pennsylvania State University
Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure
Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802
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