David,
I am confused here. I am very new to this Linux stuff admittedly.
Just installed RedHad 9 on a lap top in the last month. Have this
young guy here who has "grown up" on Linux. With his help after
the install, I went to a site, entered a command (RPM) with some
flags, then did various apt get commands. SO, am asking what am
I missing in your statement below? It appears to me that apt-get
also works for RedHat.At 08:26 AM 6/19/2003 +0100, you wrote:
No, apt-get only comes with Debian and Debian derived distributions (e.g. Knoppix) . It relies on a repository format for holding all the DEB files on central servers and Redhat and SuSE do not provide such repositories. Apt-get removes what is for other distributions usualy a manual process - dependancy resolution.
David
Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.net> cc: Sent by: Linux Subject: Re: Suse YOU updates on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU>
19/06/2003 01:45 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port
Ok, but what I really haven't caught on to yet, is apt-get available for Suse Linux or is the utilities that come with Suse that do the comprable things...better?
BTW, at 7:45 PM, it looks like the Suse website is cleared sufficient for me to get a wack at it.
Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting
David Goodenough wrote:
>Your understanding of apt-get is not quite right. > >The Debian equivalent of rpm is dpkg, both deal with the installation, >upgrade and removal of packages. > >The equivalent of Yast in the Debian world is either dselect or tasksel, or >if you are using KDE then kpackage can front either rpm or dpkg. > >apt-get is all about resolving dependancies, and given a knowledge of what >is currently available from the repositories and what is installed, working >out what needs to be downloaded in order to install or update a given item >or to update those items already installed. This does not quite exist in >the rpm system, even with Yast as its front end. It is this function which >makes Debian worth having - no more dependacy hell. > >David > > > > > Tom Duerbusch > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > scity.com> cc: > Sent by: Linux on Subject: Re: Suse YOU updates > 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ST.EDU> > > > 18/06/2003 16:46 > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > >Now I think I know what apt-get does. It seems to be a Debian version >of RPM (for Redhat and Suse), which, I think, YaST is a nice shell >around RPM (for Suse users). > >So apt-get and RPM are command line versions with YaST being an >interactive frontend. > >For those keeping track with the home version, I've been downloading >for 28 hours and have obtained 3.97 MBs so far from the Suse Maintenace >Web site. > >I now see the need for what I assume most shops are doing, of >automatically downloading new Suse material every night. Rather have >the machine do the retrys, instead of me. > >Perhaps Suse should go back to sending out quarterly CDs if they don't >want to beef up their electronic distribution system. > >A few weeks ago, I started the query on how Penguin Farms (Penguins >don't live on farms, they live off the ice shelf on the ocean. Perhaps >Penguin Farms should be Sea of Penguins?), anyway, how sites with >multiple Linux systems, keeps their systems up to date and at the same >maintenance levels. Like download everything from Suse and your images >are updated from your site. It seems to me that YOU from the Suse site, >is pretty much unreliable and a failure. > > > >Tom Duerbusch >THD Consulting > > >apt-get and jigdo are both nice to help. I presume most are familiar >with what apt-get does. > > >
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