I SSH into the box all the time. The problem would become manifest if I try
to have an automation task from os/390 logon and attempt to do anything. I
don't have SSH available on os/390 2.10. Is there a version of Z/os where i
can do something SSH-like instead of telnet or are we still stuck with the
not quite satisfactory open ssh thing?

And for anyone who is interested, I was aware that runlevel 1 would take
the network down which is why I didn't want to do it that way. I may look
at the other 'unused' runlevels and tailor something appropriate. I hope to
GOD that veritas comes out with their linux 390 client soon. We are going
to veritas for Wintel, so we could easily integrate that.




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On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 11:18, James Tison wrote:
> If you're LPAR'd and you're tcp wrappered, all you should need
> to do is set hosts.allow & hosts.deny properly to only allow
> YOUR client in (most PAMs won't permit telnet as root, but
> nothing's stopping you from su'ing to root after you've telnet'd
> in), effectively making you single-user. You're going to need
> to manually (or by runlevel script) shut down all the possible
> fs users: sshd, httpd, etc until your backups are done. Then
> just do the inverse when you're done: unset hosts.* and bring
> all the services back up.

GAAAAH!

If you're *running* sshd, then SSH into the box.  *DON'T* telnet and
then su!  You're sending the root password over the wire in cleartext if
you do that.  That's WHY you can't telnet in as root!

Adam

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