Don't forget that the Zilog Z-130 was based on the Bell chip (so it was
using the same instruction set as the 3b2).

At Concept Omega we had some Z-8000 boxes (with fans so loud they sounded
as if they were DC-9s taxiing for takeoff).

Anybody remember?  ISTR the 3b2 having a muddled byte sex.

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I agree that IBM should have used the Z8000.  However, I know that Zilog
could not have produced enough working chips.  In the 1981-1982 period we
had a hard time getting enough working chips for our own internal use.  The
ones we got were much faster than the 8086 though.  Our Zeus (Unix) systems
made MS-DOS on a PC look slow.  OTOH even our Z80 system was faster then a
PC.  I think we were making 6MHz Z80s in 1981.  I think our Z8000s were
6MHz or 8MHz.

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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Fargusson.Alan wrote:

> I think that the 68000 is a simple bigendian.  On the other hand I worked

Yeah. I've got some round here: they're in the early Macs. I've also got
a newer version of it (SMT) inside a JTEC terminal controller. It's a
single-board computer, the sort of thing we'd have mortgaged our home for
in the early 70s.

The Zilog Z8000 was another big-endian CPU. A shame, I think, that IBM
didn't use it instead of the 808x. My brain is definitely big-endian,
and MASM confused things even worse by printing its bject code in
"human-friendly" big-endian format with the result the object code
printed was not what was actually generate.


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