Well we cycled VM for the cdt/cst time change and so far this morning all my
SLES8 guests run just fine. I'm not sure why my guests were dropping or why
an IPL fixed everything but we appear to be good to go. I will repost this
in the future if the problem recurs or if I find a possible cause of my
degradations.
Thanks Everyone for Responding,
Al Schilla
State of Minnesota

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: suse 8 guestlan poor response, dropped packets


IPLs are typically only done to bring in new service or an upgrade.
Also some hardware changes require an IPL.  Devices can for the most
part be added on the fly (with Dynamic I/O Reconfiguration).

In fear of starting a holy war...  In my opinion, therapeutic IPLs are a
thing of the past.

On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:39, John Cassidy wrote:
> You should all be ashamed of yourselves!!. Even the thought of an IPL
would
> induce nightmares / foaming / delirium. Maybe with the new generation, it
is
> the "in" thing to boot the Mainframe.... hehehehe
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter
> Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
> Sent: 24 October 2003 17:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: suse 8 guestlan poor response, dropped packets
>
> We usually IPL VM once a month, mostly just to keep the operators in
> practice, although we IPLed last weekend during one of our three times a
> year maintenance windows, and we will IPL for the time change this
weekend.
> Running RHL 7.2 with IUCV to VM TCP/IP, no connection problems.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Schilla [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:20 AM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Re: suse 8 guestlan poor response, dropped packets
> >
> > My problems are huge at this time. I have problems editing a file within
> > my
> > Linux SLES8 environment without having my putty connection drop. I can
try
> > cycling zVM and/or also my Linux guests. Cycling Linux is pretty
drastic,
> > even though it can be completed quickly cycling zVM and all guests could
> > be
> > catastrophic in a large, high used environment.  That isn't my case
today
> > but it is sure a place I would like to be. If no one else is
experiencing
> > this I would suspect a configuration error within my environment
although
> > I
> > have not cycled VM in some time. We are planning a cycle this weekend.
Do
> > people concer a good place to start is IPL? My problems seem to be guest
> > lan
> > / SLES8 qeth, qdio only. I have SLES7 running on VCTC and these run
fine.
> > How often are people IPL'ing VM? What types of changes mandate VM IPLs
in
> > your environment? Major hardware adds/moves? Network infrastructure?
Poor
> > performance?
> > Thanks For the Info,
> > Al Schilla
> > State of Minnesota
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: suse 8 guestlan poor response, dropped packets
> >
> >
> > We're in the middle of analyzing something like this with IBM now.  We
> > don't
> > see connection drops on anything but Samba, but ping times (normally .4
> > ms.)
> > go to 5-10 ms. with spikes up to 1000.  This
> > seems to require a VM IPL to correct.
> >
> > Periodically, a single Linux instance will start experiencing ping times
> > of
> > 600-3000 ms. until the instance is rebooted.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > Alan Schilla
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [LINUX-390] suse 8 guestlan poor response, dropped packets
> > >
> > >
> > > We are running a number of qdio qeth guest lans that are
> > > experencing very
> > > poor response. While accessing these servers via putty SSH I will drop
> > > connection often. Sometimes within 5 minute intervals. I when
> > > so far as to
> > > try ping 1000 from an iptables guest lan server that
> > > front-ends an apache
> > > webserver guest lan and this ping received multiple
> > > multi-second responses
> > > (as high as 59 seconds) as well as a 48% packet loss 516 out
> > > of 1000 packets
> > > accepted. I have been following this listserv and noticed
> > > Micheal Lambert's
> > > zVM 4.4 guestlan problems thread and thought this may be
> > > related but we run
> > > zVM 4.3 planning to upgrade to 4.4 shortly. Has anyone seen
> > > this type of
> > > response from guestlan on zVM 4.3 for qeth, qdio? Any
> > > thoughts on how I
> > > should troubleshoot?
> > > Environment:
> > >                     osa-2 100m
> > >                             |
> > >                       zvm tcpip
> > >                             |
> > >                 guest lan firewall
> > >                             |
> > >                 guest lan apache server
> > >
> > > Al Schilla
> > > State of Minnesota
> > >
>
>
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