On Tuesday, 10/28/2003 at 10:56 EST, Steve Gentry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was able to load a more current version of the RH kernel, etc.  and
> displays and response look much better.  qeth/qdio appears to be in this
> kernel, IFCONFIG diplays eth0 with the data I entered, but I still can't
> get to the Linux guest.  Admittedly, networking isn't my strong suit.
I've
> talked to the network guys and they have helped me as much as they can.
We
> both are confused by some of the terminology.  I need define my network
> environ a little more and all of this is behind a firewall.  We have a
> z800 with two osa express cards, therefore a total of 4 ports.  Port
> 0(card 1) has 10.140.1.22 as it's ip addr Port 0(card 2) has
10.140.1.24.
> When we first installed the box I tried to put both of these on card 1,
> port 0 and port 1 respectively.

Terminology:  Both ports on a single OSA Express card are port 0 because
there are actually two OSA devices (chpids) in each card, each with a
single port (0).   There is an OSA-2 (old style) combo ethernet/token ring
card that has two ports on a single chpid that required you to worry about
port 0 and 1.

A real, live drawing of the network you are trying to build is always the
best place to start.  Seeing it in picture form clarifies what you are
trying to do and will lead you to the Right Answer.

> I never could get it to work.  Well come
> to find out and I may have the terminology wrong, you can't have two ip
> addrs with the same subnet on the same card.

Yes, you can.

> When I moved 10.140.1.24 to
> card 2, port 0, my original network started to work.  Right or wrong it
is
> working.  However, if it is wrong, please tell me as I don't want to run
> into problems later on.

I suspect issues in the switch or cabling.

> To continue, I read some where that Linux should or must be installed in
> it's own subnet.  I seem to remember this from the early days but had
> forgotten it.  Is this still true?  Thus the ip addr of 10.140.2.x

If you are connecting Linux to a guest LAN on z/VM, then yes it needs to
be in its own subnet (unless you're using z/VM 4.4. virtual switch).  If
you are giving real OSA subchannels to the Linux guest, then it must have
IP addresses in the real LAN subnet.

> Back to the linux config:  I've listed below the prompts during network
> config when I start linux.
> Enter the IP address of you new Linux guest:  10.140.2.40 (No problem
with this
> one)

Wrong subnet, I think, based  on above.

> Enter the network address of the new Linux guest:  10.140.2.0 (I'm not
100%
> sure of this answer, from looking at countless examples, the
> 4th
> octet
> should be 0(zero).)

Correct.  But you can just press ENTER on this question and it will select
the right value based on netmask.

> Enter the netmask of the new Linux guest:  255.255.255.0  (No problem
with this
> one)
> Enter teh broadcast address for the new Linux guest:  10.140.2.255 (Not
100%
> about this one either, most examples code it this way i.e., the
> 4th
> octet is 255)

Correct.  Again, ENTER will give you a good default.

> Enter the default gateway:  10.140.2.254 (This is where I get confused.
a)
> should it be 255 instead of 254?  If so,
> is the reply to the previous question
> wrong? or b) does it mean the
> default gateway for the rest of my network. In this case it would be
> 10.140.1.254 (but the 254/255
> question still lingers).

It is the IP address of the router on the 10.140.2 subnet.  But based on
the above discussion, you don't really have a .2 subnet, so there is no
router.  If you had assigned an IP address to Linux in the .1 subnet, then
the 10.140.1.254 is the correct answer.

> Enter your DNS server(s), seperated by colons( : ):
162.133.1.19:162.133.1.22
> (This one isn't clear to me, i.e., does it want the DNS server name or
> the ip addr.  I assume ip addr(s).  It doesn't fuss about it. However,
> I've never entered the DNS server name(s)).

IP addresses.  If you specified names, it couldn't resolve them into IP
addresses without knowing where the DNS servers are!

> Enter your DNS search domain(s) (if any), seperated by colons ( : ):
> vm.llic.com  (I'm not sure about this one either, however it has to be
one of
> two replies (for us)  vm.llic.com  or  llic.com.  I have tried llic.com
and it
> doesn't seem to make a difference)

This is just the list of domain names Linux will append to any host name
you use if you don't provide one.  Eg. "foohost" will be treated as
"foohost.vm.llic.com", but "barhost.ibm.com" will not be affected.  You're
right, though, it won't have any affect on connectivity.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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