On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 22:15, Post, Mark K wrote:
> A lot of the objections are being made because the assumption that you need
> the root password to shut down is incorrect.  Bootshell, the Signal Shutdown
> facility, etc., obviate the need for that.

But when I can logon to the Linux virtual machine, I can break much
more. #CP STORE is like the "Mother of all buffer overruns"
When you know where to poke, you can make it do what you like (unless
you make "less than G" virtual machines that cannot tamper with their
virtual equipment).

Compare being able to logon with physical access to the discrete machine
(plus facilities you can only dream of on Intel machines). I know some
shops where the machines are in locked racks and access is managed and
recorded. If you want something like that you should run with RACF/VM
and protect the logon to the virtual machines.

The other thing that is important to me is separating authentication and
access control. This is what you do with LOGONBY access. The same thing
can be achieved with public/private keys in SSH. You authenticate
yourself with your private key, and somewhere else we list what public
keys are valid to access root. So our servers don't even have a root
password (someone with LOGONBY access could set one in case sshd would
be completely broken).
In fact, we went beyond this. There is no access list on root anymore,
but we allow authorized staff to use 'sudo' and also have a logging of
any privileged commands that were issued.

Rob

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