I'm going to have to disagree with that.  I need my operators to be able to
access the console, however, I don't want them having root access . . . some
of them like to experiment.  Ok, some sysadmins like to also . . . perhaps
not a good example :)

but you get the idea.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Wicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Question: setting up SuSE SLES7 to automatically
> be logged
> o n as root during boot up .....
>
>
> Greetings;
>
> I have been following this discussion sporadically and
> it appears to me to be partly much ado about nothing.
>
> Many people on this list have only recently become aware of
> VM and don't really understand how things work.
>
> The concern about leaving root logged on is really pretty
> much unjustified. On VM when you disconnect you have to either
> know the password for the user or have LOGONBY priviledges in
> the VM directory to reconnect, or be a class A or C user
> and have the SCIF EXEC available.
>
> Now, if you have a lot of VM users that satisfy one or
> more of the above requirements I think you have way bigger
> security problems right now than you could possibly be
> exposed to by leaving root logged on and disconnecting
> the linux console!
>
> Good Luck!
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
>                     "Post, Mark K"
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> Question:  setting up SuSE SLES7 to automatically be logged o
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>                     on 390 Port            during boot up .....
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>                     10/30/2003
>                     03:15 PM
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>                     Port
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>
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>
>
>
> A lot of the objections are being made because the assumption
> that you need
> the root password to shut down is incorrect.  Bootshell, the Signal
> Shutdown
> facility, etc., obviate the need for that.
>
> For automation, I would find some other method of getting
> commands to a
> system.  I don't ever leave any of my systems logged on when
> I disconnect
> from the console.
>
>
> Mark Post
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob van der Heij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Question: setting up SuSE SLES7 to automatically
> be logged
> on as root during boot up .....
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 20:53, James Melin wrote:
> > Aside from being EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous, why do you want this?
>
> -snip-
>
> While the obvious reason for doing this is the automation that runs on
> that virtual console, another good reason imho is that
> systems staff do
> not need to find a root password when system administration is done by
> others.
>
> Rob
>

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