>Granted, I was reared by my parents (or wolves; historians aren't sure on
that point) to believe that it is ok.

My parents -WERE- wolves ...   har, har.

"Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light." - Alexander Pope

"It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo."    - John Collings Squire

"God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day."   - Jagdish Mehra

Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

> ----------
> From:         Alan Altmark
> Reply To:     Linux on 390 Port
> Sent:         Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:12 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: more "cause code 0x22" and /etc/chandev.conf
> 
> On Wednesday, 03/10/2004 at 06:49 CST, Richard Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > You let VM and MVS kernels read "plain files".
> > > Why should Linux be different?
> >
> > Where and when and how MVS and VM read plain files
> > doesn't necessarily match where, when, how Linux does.
> > Even if they lined up,  it doesn't follow that Linux should follow.
> > VM is wonderful,  as you know,  Alan.   But just because VM
> > does something doesn't make it right.
> >
> > Why should Linux be different?
> > Because of the Unix model Linux is based on.
> > Another example would be where MVS has such a weak notion of
> > filesystem.   Unix, Windows, OS/2, and many others,  including
> > CMS and CP, all have a much stronger concept of "filesystem".
> > FS is one point.   User/kernel sep is another.
> 
> MVS has a filesystem that is integrated into the base operating system; it
> seems pretty strong to me.  It is CP has *no* integrated filesystem.
> 
> I find nothing inherently evil about a kernel reading user-space files.
> Granted, I was reared by my parents (or wolves; historians aren't sure on
> that point) to believe that it is ok.  Apparently others were brought up
> to believe otherwise.  I can respect that.
> 
> "Because that's the way it's always been done" doesn't *have* to be the
> rule we live by, eh?  :-)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> Sr. Software Engineer
> IBM z/VM Development
> 
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