"Wilson, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In what sense do you mean "manage?"  Do you mean monitoring resources?
>and in what aspect,  from VM or from Linux?

<pedantic>
I think Eric hit the nail on the head here with his question.  "Monitoring" is a very 
poorly defined term in this business (IOW, it means different things to different 
people, or to the same people in different contexts):
- Operational monitoring (is system XYZ up and happy?)
- Operational analysis (is system XYZ going to stay happy, or is it going to fall over 
Real Soon Now because the hamster is running out of chew bars?)
- Performance analysis (is system XYZ on its knees because it's just too small?)
- Capacity planning (is system XYZ going to be on its knees soon at the rate things 
are going?)
- Program monitoring (is system XYZ being monopolized by process 123?)

Obviously these touch and overlap in places, but it's conceivable to have separate 
products for each or to have one product that does all of them.  One might assume that 
the product that does all of them would be both more expensive and harder to use (more 
complex), so "Of course we want all of them" isn't always the right answer.

Things like Big Brother do the first thing; Barton's tools do an excellent job of 
performance analysis and capacity planning, with some program monitoring.

top and sar do some of this too, albeit with useless results in some areas (most of 
top's output, for example -- not sure about sar).

So it's probably important to know which thing(s) you really mean, and what it is 
you're trying to achieve or what problem(s) you're trying to solve, in order for the 
question to be answered most meaningfully.
</pedantic>

As for Levanta, it gives you some operational monitoring -- it can tell you whether an 
instance is running or not, and collects some minor system and user statistics (mostly 
SPOOL usage).  It's not intended as a monitoring tool, so that's as deep as it goes 
currently.  As Marcy indicated, Levanta is more focused on deployment, provisioning, 
and managing the system software stack itself.

Hope this helps,
...phsiii

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