Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
Back in April I attended a seminar given by IBM on the usual subjects.
And one before that in March. During the entire April seminar the
Tivoli rep, didn't want to discuss the importance of VM, and Linux as
a guest, nor the reasoning behind that position, and while they did
give token mention to VM, as a server, it was always as a legacy
application. 

Sometime ago, during a two day seminar held at the IBM offices in
Manhattan, (That's one place where you and I, met, David.), the Tivoli
representative was clearly out of the depth to which the person was
placed. Come to think of it, so was the Oracle representative. 

Jim, since this is a sensitive subject, I'm not going to continue on
my opinions in this forum, but can you do something about it? 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> David Boyes
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Time stamps and journaling file systems
> 
> > [ ... good case for doing TSM on zSeries for specific customer
with
> SCSI tape already in place ... ]
> > Most of the
> > pre-reqs were already there.
> 
> This is the key sentence. I agree that it made sense for this
customer
> -- but they are the exception, not the rule in terms of equipment
> present in their environment.
> 
> Have a look around at your other established customers and compare
the
> number who have SCSI attached storage and tape, and then count the
> number which have ESCON/FICON attached storage systems and tape.
> In any rational world, I'd expect the "recommended" product to
support
> both, particularly given the non-trivial investment we're talking
about
> in hardware.
> 
> Enterprise-class ATLs aren't cheap, and adding a 3590 is a expensive
> proposition, both in terms of cost and real estate in the silo,
> especially if those drives are inaccessible to the other hosts using
the
> silo. If you've already got them, great -- lucky you. Most people
don't,
> and asking someone to spend $35K or more for a tape drive that their
> other systems can't benefit from is a bit silly in my book - almost
as
> silly as forcing them to buy a whole new operating system with
punitive
> software licensing models to use hardware they already have paid for
for
> a basic task like backups.
> 
> And Tivoli wonders why TSM doesn't do very well in the
marketplace...
> 
> -- db

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