Paul,

I did same connection some months ago (MP3000 + MAN + VM/ESA TCP/IP +
LINUX/390)
I had a similar problem, I can ping from PC to VM, from VM to PC, from
Linux/390 to 
VM and from VM to Linux/390, but can�t ping from Linux/390 to PC and PC
to Linux/390
using VM TCPIP as gateway.

The problem was located in MAN, since I was using ip address filtering.
After I unmark
ip filtering all runs OK. Today I have defined in IP filtering, VM TCPIP
ip address and
more 4 ip addresses, one for each Linux/390 image behind VM TCPIP.

So from you sample, you need to define in MAN configuration both
addresses:

192.168.168.20 is the VM stack
192.168.168.129 is the Linux stack

Or unmark addresses filtering.

I hope this help.

Carlos Bodra
VM/VSE System Consultant
S�o Paulo - Brazil  

>-----Mensagem original-----
>De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome 
>de Paul Burke
>Enviada em: quarta-feira, 16 de junho de 2004 05:12
>Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Assunto: Re: First time Linux under S/390
>
>On 14th June Vic Cross wrote
>
>> Paul, did you get this working?  If not, a suggestion or 
>three inline...
>
>I got it working but not in the manner I would have preferred. 
>The MAN device connecting to the M3000 H30 operates as a Lan 
>Channel Station with multiple virtual channels/connections. So 
>I configured the Linux machine to be a part of the same subnet 
>and gave it ownership of a virtual channel/connection. The 
>benefit here is that I now know I have a working linux 
>instance and am not wondering whether Linux, VM TCPIP, gateway 
>statements, PC routing statements or the price of fish in 
>Bratislava is the problem!
>
>I think my difficulty may have been that most documentation I 
>was reading was implying that Linux had to operate as a subnet 
>and by implication there is a router in the configuration. We 
>do not have a router and presently have no requirement to 
>operate subnets. However, taking these assumptions to be 
>truisms I was coding appropriate VM TCPIP gateway statements 
>thinking these would operate as a 'software' router (IP 
>forwarding is enabled in the VM TCPIP stack).
>
>Whilst not a real requirement as yet I would like to have the 
>option of operating VM TCPIP  as a gateway to Linux instances.
>
>If anyone would care to shed light on my (mis)understanding I 
>would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks for all your help up to this point.
>
>Paul
>
>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Paul Burke wrote:
>
>> Configuring my first Linux under S/390 and cannot get Linux to 
>> communicate with the network. Following is a brief overview of the 
>> environment.
>>
>> We run a class C network 192.168.168. with a subnet mask of 
>> 255.255.255.128. Existing network runs on low order, Linux network 
>> runs on the high order. Connectivity between the network to 
>z/VM on a 
>> Multiprise 3000 H30 is provided by a Bustech MAN device owned by VM 
>> TCP/IP.
>
>I'm not familiar with this guy...  If it's a 'smart' device like an OSA
>-- if you can call any OSA smart ;) -- it might need some 
>configuration to know that there are addresses behind the VM 
>IP stack.  On an OSA we'd be talking about PRIROUTER or 
>manipulation of the OAT...
>
>> 192.168.168.20 is the VM stack
>> 192.168.168.129 is the Linux stack
>> 192.168.168.35 is a PC on the network
>>
>> >From a Z/VM CMS virtual machine I can ping all resources. 
>From Linux, 
>> >I can ping VM but not the PC. From the PC, I can ping VM but not 
>> >Linux.
>
><some snippage>
>>
>> netstat gate
>>
>> VM TCP/IP Netstat Level 420
>>
>> Known gateways:
>>
>> NetAddress      FirstHop   Flgs PktSz Subnet Mask  Subnet Value  Link
>> ----------      --------   ---- ----- -----------  
>------------  ------
>> 192.168.168.0   <direct>   US   1500  0.0.0.128    0.0.0.0   
>    VMLINK
>> 192.168.168.129 <direct>   UHS  1500  HOST                   
>    LINUX1V
>> Ready; T=0.02/0.03 10:50:49
>
>You don't appear to have a default gateway in z/VM TCPIP -- 
>not critical for this, perhaps, as you have specific routes 
>for the networks you need, but if Linux needs to get to other 
>places (the Internet for example) you will need to set this up 
>using a DEFAULTNET in your GATEWAY statement.
>
>> Linux (192.168.168.129 - Debian distribution)
>>
>> route
>>
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination     Gateway        Genmask         Flags Metric 
>Ref Use Iface
>> 192.168.168.20  *              255.255.255.255 UH    0      
>0   0   ctc0
>> 192.168.168.129 *              255.255.255.255 UH    0      
>0   0   ctc0
>> 127.0.0.0       *              255.0.0.0       U     0      
>0   0   lo
>> default         192.168.168.20 0.0.0.0         UG    0      
>0   0   ctc0
>
>This looks okay.
>
>> ping -c 1 192.168.168.129
><snip working>
>> ping -c 1 192.168.168.20
><snip working>
>> ping -c 1 192.168.168.35
><snip not working>
>
>Definitely somebody's not routing...
>
>> PC (192.168.168.35)
>>
>> C:\>ipconfig /all
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>
>>         Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>         Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 
>Integrated Fast 
>> Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
>>         Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-5B-12-99-19
>>         DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>         IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.35
>>         Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.128
>>         Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
>>         DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 154.15.243.2
>>                                             154.15.244.2
>>         Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.3
>>
>> C:\>route print
>> 
>======================================================================
>> =====
>> Interface List
>> 0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
>> 0x1000003 ...00 06 5b 12 99 19 ...... 3Com EtherLink PCI
>>
>===============================================================
>============
>>
>===============================================================
>============
>> Active Routes:
>> Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface
>Metric
>>           0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0    192.168.168.1  192.168.168.35
>1
>>         127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1
>1
>>     192.168.168.0  255.255.255.128   192.168.168.35  192.168.168.35
>1
>>    192.168.168.35  255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1
>1
>>   192.168.168.128  255.255.255.128   192.168.168.20  192.168.168.35
>1
>>   192.168.168.255  255.255.255.255   192.168.168.35  192.168.168.35
>1
>>         224.0.0.0        224.0.0.0   192.168.168.35  192.168.168.35
>1
>>   255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255   192.168.168.35  192.168.168.35
>1
>> Default Gateway:     192.168.168.1
>>
>===============================================================
>============
>> Persistent Routes:
>>   None
>
>Right.  This lot tells me that the Windows machine is okay 
>too.  You have the correct subnet mask on the Ethernet, and an 
>appropriate route to direct the 192.168.168.128 network to the 
>VM IP stack (so, changing the default router at 192.168.168.1 
>to add this might help other machines, but not this one in this case).
>
>Also, Proxy ARP will not assist either, because the Linux 
>guest is not in the 192.168.168.0/25 network that the Ethernet 
>is configured for (this network stops at .127 - the broadcast 
>address - and the Linux guest is at .129).
>
>My suggestions: double-check that there is no firewall product 
>on the PC, or a firewall configuration on the Linux guest, 
>that is stopping the traffic flowing.  If that's clear, check 
>that IP forwarding is enabled in the VM IP stack 
>(ASSORTEDPARMS NOFWD must not appear in PROFILE TCPIP, and you 
>should see "IP forwarding is enabled" in the TCPIP service 
>machine's spool output).
>
>Cheers,
>Vic Cross
>
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