Owning and controlling a Business Unit in such a big corporation is sometimes mutually exclusive.
Larry -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 09:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] So let me understand this correctly.... Tivoli=IBM - didn't IBM buy the Tivoli mark, kinda like they did with Lotus? VM=IBM. IBM makes the Virtualization software we all come to depend on to make the linux equation work. So what we have here is IBM saying they will not update their own software to run on their own software. This makes about as much sense as Microsoft deciding not to put the next version of IE out for XP, when the operating system after XP is not out the door. "O'Brien, Dennis L" <Dennis.L.O'Brien To @bankofamerica.co [EMAIL PROTECTED] m> cc Sent by: Linux on 390 Port Subject <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: IST.EDU> Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] 07/29/2004 07:21 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> Okay, I should have added "current" to my list. TSM on VM isn't, and Tivoli has made it clear that it never will be. I'm not interested in a product if the product's vendor isn't interested in it. Dennis O'Brien Bank of America "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"! -- Ronald Reagan, 12 Jun 1987 -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Shilson Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 16:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/29/2004 06:13:14 PM: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 17:12, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: > > We tried to find a backup product for Red Hat Linux, and couldn't > find a GA product that met our needs (e.g. uses mainframe tape drives, > doesn't require a server on z/OS). > > HEY, TIVOLI, ARE YOU LISTENING? <...snip...> Actually, Tivoli makes a product that we use for RedHat Linux and others on z/VM. It is called Tivoli Storage Manager. The server runs on VM. The server piece is frozen at some outdated release. We have enough dasd to back up all our servers to it overnight. During the day this all gets munged onto collocated tapes. Then we are ready for the next night's backups. The combination of a Tivoli Storage Manager Server on VM with clients on captive (dare I say virtual?!) Linuxes is a natural. ARE YOU LISTENING TIVOLI?! ...no, of course not, :-) It has worked well for us. My company denies any knowledge of anything I say, _/) Tom Shilson ~~~~~ GEDW & VM System Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
