That's really too bad about the traditional CMS workloads not being allowed
on IFLs.  We have 5 z990 machines (some in some coming) averaging 20
something engines each; that's just the production data center - the other
has another set of z990s in & planned.  Our traditional VM workload would
fit nicely on an engine or 2 but we'd be nuts to pay to license VM on 25
engines and use it on 1.  So it sits on 9672's, stuck in 31bit land until
who knows when..  The benefits of server consolidation don't seem to apply
to VM itself.  It seems most of the other sw vendors allow mips based sw
licenses and would allow it.

We do read z/OS datasets directly & safely.   We put data on "pass through"
volumes and look at them read only from VM.  Those are the only MVS volumes
genned to both sides.

Marcy Cortes
(415) 243-6343

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-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan
Altmark
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] COBOL on Linux

On Friday, 07/30/2004 at 02:17 AST, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> If you have lots of VS COBOL or COBOL II programs, you may also want
> to consider whether you should use CMS COBOL instead of COBOL on
> Linux. The CMS COBOL compilers run fine on IFLs. It'd take a special
> bid from IBM, but that's not a big deal these days, they're used to
> it. It'd be a lot less conversion work, and the debugging tools are MUCH
better on CMS.
> You'd also still have the ability to read z/OS datasets directly w/o
> going through the NFS overhead.

We would most likely reject such a request.  We're flexible about software
that is used to meet your systems management and productivity needs, but
running COBOL applications to process business data is outside the bounds of
what an IFL was designed to do (run Linux apps).

Read z/OS datasets directly? <delicate cough>  Use caution.  It certain
environments it creates a security problem, not to mention possible data
integrity issues.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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