I haven't seen it mentioned yet that 'VMWare' comes in at least five
different flavors: VMWare Workstation (Windows or Linux base OS), VMWare
GSX(Windows or Linux base OS) and the 'enterprise level' VMWare ESX (which
is actually Linux under the covers, and doesn't require a user installed
base OS).

Workstation is aimed at individual users, GSX is for small consolidations,
and ESX is aimed more at the target market that would be served by z/VM.

VMWare ESX is a great solution for some environments, but rumor has it that
multiple heavily IO intensive applications will bury it. On the other hand,
for pure web serving with little or no I/O involved, the economics are often
much better than z/VM.

In any virtualization environment, Microsoft has made it clear that you owe
them a license fee for each copy of their software you are running.  They
have also made it clear that they are serious about stealing VMWare's market
with their new Virtual Server product, and I'm guessing they will be
inserting some neat hooks into Windows to help Virtual Server run better
than the competition.  They have been elusive about supporting Linux guests
on their Virtual Server product. VMWare lists Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, x86
Solaris and NetWare as supported guests.

I don't think there is an easy answer to your VMWare vs. z/VM question, and
MS Virtual Server adds in a third possibility.  You would have to benchmark
your specific apps and do your own cost study to get the correct answer for
your environment.

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek





-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Seader, Cameron
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VMware vs. VM


We have Mercury Interactive here onsite this week testing our Websphere apps
on Windows and VMware and against Linux on zSeries z/VM and well needless to
say VMware sucks and cannot perform well at all, infact when you load up 70
concurrent users the cpu load hits 100% on the intel server and well you
know the rest, when an intel server hits 100% it is like it hits idol and
does nothing. Transactions time out and move very very slow, if you go
higher than 70 concurrent users well it crashes the whole thing.
-Cameron

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug
Fairobent
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 07:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VMware vs. VM


I am currently trying to convince the management at my company to launch a
server consolidation project using Linux on VM.  All of the Intel
programmers (who vastly outnumber me) are touting VMware as the server
consolidation solution.  Does anyone know of an analysis or study that
compares the merits of VM to VMware?  I hope to find some sort of ammunition
I can use to promote Linux on VM.  Thanks.

                                                                  - doug

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