On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 05:58:00PM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote:

| Confusion abounds.  The Hardware Management Console (HMC) has a CD/DVD
| drive in it that can read specially-formatted discs as Mark describes.  It
| does not emulate a tape drive but is a function built directly into the
| machine.  That is, the HMC drive does not appear as a device within the
| I/O subsystem.  Booting a partition from this drive causes a binary image
| to be loaded from the drive into memory WITHOUT the use of traditional IPL
| processing.  You cannot boot the HMC DVD drive into a second-level guest
| because there is no way to "give" (from the h/w perspective) the HMC DVD
| to a partition and, hence, no way to use it with a guest.
|
| 3422 tape emulation using Optical Media Attach (OMA) format is done on
| Multiprise 3000, FLEX-ES, and the IBM 2074-2.  IBM-provided CDs (not
| DVDs!!) will contain a /tapes directory and a TDF.  Things on here are
| IPLable using traditional IPL processing.  Because it is a real device,
| you can attach it to a second-level guest and IPL the guest from it.

So which TDF file does it default to using for an IPL?


| You have to decide which kind of device you're going to be using: An
| emulated tape or the HMC DVD drive.  How you use them and how you build
| them are waaaay different.

Thanks for helping to clarify more of this.  This seems to be worthy of a
web page of its own.

So if I have these files from Slack390:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/slack390/slack390-10.0/kernels 2628> ls -lG
total 12960
-rw-r--r--    1 phil          857 Feb 17 00:39 CHECKSUMS.s390.md5
-rw-r--r--    1 phil         1016 Feb 17 00:38 FILE_LIST.s390
-rw-r--r--    1 phil      9284531 Feb 16 11:41 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--    1 phil           45 Jul  5  2004 parmfile.txt
-rw-r--r--    1 phil         7402 Feb  7 00:02 parmfile.values.txt
-rw-r--r--    1 phil          326 Jul  5  2004 tape.sample.parmfile.txt
-rw-r--r--    1 phil      2107648 Jul  4  2004 
tapeinstall.image-2.4.26.gcc-3.3.4.img
-rw-r--r--    1 phil          452 Jul  5  2004 vm.sample.parmfile.txt
-rw-r--r--    1 phil      2107648 Jul  4  2004 
vminstall.image-2.4.26.gcc-3.3.4.img
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/slack390/slack390-10.0/kernels 2629>

I could use them with the OMA tape emulation.  But what about with HMC?

Now it sounds like the HMC drive won't be usable for what I want to do.

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