>It's not enforced.  But, the cost of non-compliance may bankrupt some
businesses, so it is best to follow the rules.

Translation:  "Our lawyers can beat up your lawyers."

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From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Per engine pricing..


It's not enforced.  But, the cost of non-compliance may bankrupt some
businesses, so it is best to follow the rules.

The IFL is designed to offload z/VM and Linux workload to a separate set
of engines so that the workload doesn't interfere with the standard
engines (the same theory applies to the zAAP).  Upgrading the standard
engines is significantly more expensive (for hardware and software) than
upgrading the IFL(s).

The IFLs are segregated into a separate LPARs so that software vendors
can be certain that they will not be brought online to z/OS (which will
not IPL with an IFL in the engine mix).

Tom Duerbusch wrote:
> Well, duh...but how is it enforced?
>
> And if it is based on our honor, why have an engine type of IFL or Zaap?
>    Let me give my word that these two engines are in this LPAR and only
> running xxxx software and these engines are in this LPAR and only
> running yyyy software.
>
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
>
> Rich Smrcina wrote:
>
>> As long as you have a license for any engines that the software is
>> running on, whether they be IFLs or standard.
>>
>> Tom Duerbusch wrote:
>>
>>> OK, sure you buy an IFL and have per engine pricing for software over
>>> there.  Great.
>>>
>>> What prevents us from also running "per engine" based priced software
>>> on the s/390 engines?
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about z/VM per say, but Websphere, Oracle, DB2/UDB
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Not that there will be many mips available in the white space on the
>>> 390 side, compared to 366 MIPS on the IFL, but just how is this figured
>>> out?
>>>
>>> Tom Duerbusch
>>> THD Consulting
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