I am concerned about the "short read" errors.  While the channel errors are the 
ones you get when a read-only filesystem is not properly configured, it sounds 
like you may have some other problem.

Just as a sanity check, does the size of the file system given by df -k (or 
something similar) match the size of the physical device?

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Forcing FSCK on all DASD at IPL


No, not sharing and DASD at this point. That's a future 'to do' but not
until we're on SLES 9, etc.

So even though I see the I/O errors, and an erep message against the DASD,
if fsck -n comes back clean, there should be no worries?

I also had a file system get corrupted on Friday. I restored it to
Thursday's backup. Friday backup had the corrupted file system which I
restored to another device and mounted on a diff guest

The behaviour of fsck -n against THIS file system is different....

vadnais:~ # fsck -n /dev/dasdf1
fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002)
e2fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002)
Warning!  /dev/dasdf1 is mounted.
Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem
check.
/dev/dasdf1 has gone 184 days without being checked, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Entry '..' in .../??? (129889) has deleted/unused inode 436565.  Clear? no

Entry '..' in .../??? (179216) has deleted/unused inode 436575.  Clear? no

Error reading block 902856 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
in short read).  Ignore error? no

Error reading directory block 902856 (inode 436576): Attempt to read block
from filesystem resulted in short read
Continue? no

e2fsck: aborted
fsck.ext2 /dev/dasdf1 failed (status 0x8). Run manually!

Which is exactly what I saw at IPL time on Sunday - Which made me go look
at all the other penguins to see if there was anything in the log. Then the
erep/io error stuff on Monday really freaked me out but those file systems
are passing the fsck -n test. So it looks like fsck -n is giving me the
integrity test I desired. Now to check all the systems.

In any case what should I make of the i/o errors and erep messages I posted
earlier?




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Is /dev/dasdc1 shared with another system?  I have seen others report this
kind of error if the device is shared but you don't have read-only
specified in /etc/fstab and the IPL parms (or something like that).

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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Forcing FSCK on all DASD at IPL


Ok...  fsck -n can be used as a reliable health check? The reason I am
asking is this:

I get :

itasca:~ # fsck -n /dev/dasdc1
fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002)
e2fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002)
Warning!  /dev/dasdc1 is mounted.
Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem
check.
/dev/dasdc1: clean, 46722/451584 files, 657516/903036 blocks

but when I look in /var/log/warn I am seeing

Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: EXAMINE 24: Command Reject detected - fatal error
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd): Sense data:
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):device 0202 on irq 8: I/O status
report:
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):in req: 22a18000 CS: 0x40 DS:
0x0E
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):Failing CCW: 22a180b8
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  0- 7: 80 00 00 00 22
ff ff 04
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):Sense(hex)  8-15: 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 04
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 16-23: 23 00 32 7e 92
69 0f 04
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):Sense(hex) 24-31: 00 00 40 e2 00
13 97 0a
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd(eckd):24 Byte: 0 MSG 4, no MSGb to
SYSOP
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel:
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (EXAMINE) ERP chain report for req: 22a18000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18000: c5c3d2c4 00000000 22a18000 22a18000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18010: 0177a000 0233a980 22a180a8 03000100
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18020: 00000000 ff000000 22a18078 08493400
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18030: 00000000 00000000 0000011e 1a300000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18040: bd657cca c6b67188 bd657cca c6b68568
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18050: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18060: 00000083 00000030 00000000 00000000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18070: 01694100 00000000 40cc0000 00000000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DATA area is at: 22a18078
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18078: 40cc0000 00000000 1397000a 13970006
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18088: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18098: 06800080 1397000a 1397000a 0bb81000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Start of channel program:
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180a8: 63400010 22a18078 47400010 22a18098
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180b8: 86401000 0f76b000 86401000 4585b000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180c8: 86401000 3906c000 86401000 0c5fb000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180d8: 86401000 50a70000 86401000 07e8f000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180e8: 86401000 430c9000 86401000 11cfa000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a180f8: 86401000 415f4000 86401000 14db0000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18108: 86401000 23f43000 86401000 24a3b000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18118: 86401000 24a26000 86401000 25719000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18128: 86401000 13ea3000 86401000 22e67000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 22a18138: 86401000 24679000 86401000 29779000
Aug  1 10:02:08 itasca kernel: dasd_erp(3990):  /dev/dasdc  ( 94:
8),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: End of channel program:

I also get this for /dev/dasdd and that also reports clean for fsck -n

So I am concerned.....




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Most versions of fsck support the -n option, which causes them to use
read-only mode.  This can be done without unmounting the filesystem.  You
can verify the filesystem this way, but you can't repair any damage without
unmounting them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Forcing FSCK on all DASD at IPL


Hey gang. Seeing some error messages about my file system that I'm
concerned about.

Is it possible to force an FSCK on all file systems defined to a Linux
guest at IPL? I am seeing some errors in /opt/warn that are concerning me
on a couple of file systems though the systems appear to be running at the
moment. Typically it's been doing it after x many mounts or after x many
days without being checked.

Also, is it possible to run an integrity check of a file system while it is
mounted with some other utility? FSCK of course warns about possibly
frelling your filesystem to the center of the earth if you use it on a
mounted file system.  Just wondering what FS checker might be available
that I don't have to schedule downtime with customers in order to use it

Any ideas/thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

-J

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