Gerald, I wasn't referring to any specific Redbooks. It's just that is the approach they tend to take, along with a much more "conversational" tone that makes them easier to read than a lot of other (reference-type) publications that come out of IBM. :) Redbooks tend to be "prescriptive" (do "A" with parameter "x," then "B" then "C") rather than descriptive.
Before I wrote the note you quoted below, I looked at the document at ftp://www6.software.ibm.com/software/developer/linux390/docu/l26bhe00.pdf. It has all the information needed (I believe) and lots of examples, but no single, coherent, step-by-step _practical_ example. What I was alluding to was the idea of taking a running system, executing all the commands for implementing xip on that system and capturing the output. Annotate that, and stuff it into an appendix. That takes the whole thing from being completely theoretical to completely practical. People are able to look at things like that, figure out how their situation is different, and adapt it to their needs. As an example, look at sections 17.3, 17.4 and 17.6 in SG24-6264. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246264.html Mark Post -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Schaefer Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Shared OS DASD Hi, I am not sure which Redbook you are referring to, but all I found on the topic "basevol/guestvol" was the "Large Scale Linux Deployment" Redbook, chapter 9. I agree with you that people want cookbooks they can follow, but that is exactly what the xip2 HowTo is about. It provides a step-by-step instruction on how to create, populate and use a xip2 filesystem on a DCSS (just like the above mentioned Redbook does it for creating basevol/guestvol Linux clones), and there are also a bunch of scripts included so that people don't have to figure things out themselves. Could you please be more specific about what kind of information you are missing in the xip2 HowTo, so we can add this in future releases? (http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/april2004_documentation.html) Mit freundlichem Gruß / Kind regards, Gerald Schäfer *********************************************************** IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH Linux for zSeries Development & Service, Dept. D3303 Schönaicherstr. 220, 71032 Böblingen Office: 03/U09 --- Phone: +49-(0)7031-16-2275 External mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux on 390 Port <[email protected]> wrote on 08/10/2005 06:08:19 PM: > While I agree that xip2 is (really) great thing, what everyone > recommending it's use is missing is this: Bill Scully went to great > effort to document just how to set up a workable basevol/guestvol > arrangement. No one has really done that for xip2. The documentation > you point to is very thorough, but most people want cookbooks they can > follow, since they don't have the time available to figure things out > themselves. (That's one reason why IBM Redbooks have always been very > popular.) > > If someone were to come up with a cookbook for a basic, workable xip2 > implementation, I believe it would result in a better level of > acceptance in "the field" than it does today. > > > Mark Post > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carsten Otte > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:46 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Shared OS DASD > > -snip- > In case you're running on z/VM, consider using DCSS with xip2 > filesystem instead of shared dasd. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
