We need a "stupid systems programmers club".  I'll join<G>.

What I see with Suse, is 5 - 10 "maintenance updates" hitting my mail
box every day.  Some are just to make things work right, but many are
security related.

Now, I'm not sure how much is needed, for an Oracle database running on
a mainframe.  But these databases also tend to feed servers out on the
network, or perhaps even out on the Internet.  So, security is a concern
of mine, until it's proven that I don't need to worry about certain
areas.

So, in a closed shop, or if security isn't much of a problem, then a
packaged solution would seem to work.  (Again, who pays for it, and is
there sufficent money to be made to make it worth wild..)

But I don't have the information necessary to say, that Oracle database
servers don't need these security patchs (or any other kind of patch)
applied.

I guess whoever does the packaging could, send out a new image of linux
out every month, hopefully, not requiring database changes.

But if there are shops willing to pay for it, I'm sure some vender will
fill the need.

And there are sufficent differences in the flavors of zLinux, to make
"support" an issue.  Just try adding a few disks to SUSE8 vs SUSE9,
perhaps to expand your database.  The procedures are entirely different.
 Now, what about the procedures for RedHat, and others?  I don't know.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/02/05 10:14 AM >>>
OK, I'll admit that I'm rather stupid. I thought the original poster
wanted a "self contained appliance" that ran Oracle. The concept of an
"appliance", to me, is "no user servicable parts inside", so to speak.
So Oracle implements their code using something like Debian. The
distro
comes with all required Linux users predefined. There should be little
or no reason for the user to add new users or run as "root" for any
reason. The fact that the user's company was a SuSE or RedHat shop
would
not be very relevent to this particular Oracle distributation. The
distro would need some customization (like for the Ethernet
connection).
Or it might be possible to make is "smart" like Knoppix and have it
find
the Ethernet. It might even be easier under z/VM since the actual I/O
configuration (device addresses) don't matter under z/VM. Just set up
the Oracle Linux guest as required by Oracle and IPL. That pretty much
leaves assigning the IP address(es) if DCHP is not being used to
assign
IP addresses.

What am I missing? Is there some problem with distributing Debian (or
CentOS or ...) with other bundled software?

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