On Monday, 09/11/2006 at 03:02 AST, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The point gets lost every time Alan and I butt heads on this:

We have matching calouses.  :-)

> I should have re-iterated  "tracks and records"  (out of band),
> which is obviously useful IFF the applications have that level
> of access,  but which are  NOT USED  by applications on CMS, Linux,
> or most other operating systems  (going beyond zSeries here).
> So apps don't have access,  so is rendered useless if not
> intrinsically so.

I would agree that, architecturally, EKD (ECKD minus the "key") has no
more value than FBA and simply adds overhead.

> > And, finally, it represents another programming interface that must be
> > tested and documented.  "Uselessness" is in the eye of the beholder.
:-)
>
> This point does not hold water:
> You support the FBA programming interface for V-DISK,  not for
> (nor even in spite of)  idealistic dreaming would-be customers.

I thought we were talking about *hardware*....something that could take a
CD/DVD.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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