On 9/27/06, Little, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That really wouldn't work for  our environment (at least).  Operators
have the ability to "logonby".  The worst they could do would be a #cp
logoff.

Only limited by skills and/or imagination...  Not that you would not
notice, but when you are logged on you can store in memory, boot
another kernel, change the root password, whatever.
If you don't trust your operators to have root access, then imho you
should not let them at the virtual machine console either. Although
with high privileges it is hard to prevent that...

I am a strong believer in clear rules and auditing, and I have mostly
had security folks support me in that. So privileged VM userids run
with console spooled to an archive machine so you can see what your
colleague did that caused the operator to page you at night. Or you
can see what your own line of thinking was when you did what you
should not have done. Discarding your console log or hiding things
requires an explanation. Even if it's extra work to type a rename of a
file on the command line rather than use filelist against the 190
disk. And there's also RACF auditing and operator log and service
machines to fill in the gaps.

Translating that to Linux meant no root access except for emergency
actions and controlled automated processes (through SCIF, and logged).
On Linux we used sudo for system staff, without passwords and no
command restrictions. But with logging. And access control through
cryptic keys etc.

The biggest thing the security folks had with this was that such tight
control for Linux on z/VM would imply that other platforms would be
unable to meet those standards.

By leaving root logged on at the console -- I shudder to think of the
vulnerability there.

I can not think for you and don't want to.

Rob

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