> I don¹t buy it, because sftp is also based on ssh,
> yet it does what it¹s documented to do.   ...

You're right about SFTP.  I had forgotten.
Makes me wonder if, under the covers, the z/OS SSH
can turn off its translation feecher.

> Translating the command on the ssh line is the correct thing to do,
> but munging all the data that the command acted on is not. It¹s a huge,
> and incorrect, assumption that everything you might want to copy
> will be text.  Java class files are a prime example.  These get
> ³scp²ed around commonly in the real world,   ...

I first encountered OpenVM (the CMS counterpart to USS) in 1995.
I was so excited!  All the standard Unix tools were there.  So I
brought in a TAR file of my stuff and cracked it open and found my
shell scripts to not work.  Weird.  Eyeballing one,  I was SHOCKED
to see garbage,  and immediately realized it was ASCII and OVM EBCDIC.

I remained in shock for probably 7 months.
Took that long before I warmed up again to OE.
But now I love it!  And I realize that OpenVM and USS *must* be EBCDIC.
But yeah,  we have a problem.  You mention Java class files copied
around.  For me,  a killer is NFS mounting:  to translate or not?
Might seem easy:  If text then translate, or if executable not.
But what about directories with mixed content?  No easy solution.

 ...
> You can only use the USS scp command to handle text files, and how long has
> it been since we only dealt with text files? Back into the 60¹s? If ever?
> USS scp is a useless command, because the results will not mirror what you¹d
> expect on other Posix compliant systems.

What would you expect from Apache on USS?
Is it supposed to translate or not?

-- R;

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