On 10/25/09 11:47 PM, "Kirk Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Does such an effort distract from LSB?

It's orthogonal to it, but separate. LSB details where such an animal would
live, the universal binary idea is what you're delivering. I think that
universal binaries would simplify things (cf all the stupidity about /lib vs
/lib64) a lot, but then you get the bitching about "why does this app take
up so much more space than application Y". I'd take a close look at the
history of fat binaries on Mac OS and on SVID systems to get a sense of what
will happen with this. If you can do it, it's a good thing, but it has to be
consistently applied and managed. Apple did a fairly good job, but only by
virtue of having almost complete control over the development and deployment
process by making PackageManager, which everybody uses by default.

>   To that point, what do listers
> think about LSB?

Mostly to swear at large software vendors for not following it, and thus
making their applications depend on specific distribution quirks. If the big
players (*cough* Oracle, IBM, Novell *cough*) would follow it strictly, then
I think we'd have a better chance of it taking root and we would have less
of the "must be running version XX.yy of distribution ZZ" BS than we have.

> PS> We have more than a casual interest in the future of LSB, since we
> currently offer products that ship in LSB form.   Its not clear the the
> industry has or ever will fully embrace it.

Only because we let them get away with it.

> If not LSB, what chance does
> something like this have?

Slightly better, in that this lets them make fewer different packages which
is slightly cheaper. LSB doesn't have an immediately visible cost effect;
it's just another requirement that has to be met. 

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