How about under z/VM?    z/VM I can install from DVD on the HMC...   now I
want to install (an enterprise edition of) Linux...   as far as I know, I
still can't do it without networking to an external server.   This is where
I'm hoping I'm just behind the times..

What I'm wanting is a way to give a customer a quick POC of z/VM-Linux
without requiring they have an existing server that must be networked to.
In some situations, this has been a deal breaker..   Outside of working
through the firewalls, finding someone in the customer org to 'host' the
DVD image/directory can be a problem. It's a little confounding to them to
explain this need to install a mainframe product.    That's why I've been
thinking about an ECKD image 'starter system' that can be FTP'd to z/VM and
restored with a small Linux on it to act as install server for either one
or many penguins.   But being that I can't distribute Linux in any such
fashion for a customer - I keep hoping the distributors will come up with a
simple starter system.  Have they and I missed it?

Scott Rohling


On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Mark Post <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>> On 2/5/2015 at 10:33 PM, Scott Rohling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I find that the Linux install under z/VM on a new z has the same issue
> ...
> >   you need an existing install server (not on the z) to do an install of
> > the DVD image or install directories.   Once you have one built you can
> > turn it into your new install server -- but until then you're stuck
> trying
> > to network to an external (from the z) server.    Or... am I hopelessly
> > behind and not aware of current solutions?  (happens more and more often
> as
> > I approach senility)   A Linux minidisk image (PIPEDDR, whatever)  setup
> as
> > an install server would be great -- but are the distributors willing to
> > provide this?
>
> For z/VM there's the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Starter System.  It's
> been available for the last seven (7) years:
> https://download.suse.com/Download?buildid=l5_UjT5Nvmk~
>
> > I guess I'm asking:   is there a distributor solution for bare hardware
> > that doesn't require network access to some other box?   My impression is
> > no..
>
> This is an entirely different question.  For "bare metal"/LPAR installs,
> no.  At least not yet.  If that HMC DVD driver doesn't appear soon, I've
> got an idea that I believe will work.
>
>
> Mark Post
>
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