Hi Steve,

My only idea is to repeat this earlier content from Alan, two of whose emails I 
have extracted below.  I have never done a DVD zLinux install but have done one 
many moons ago from an FTP server, which required firewall changes as Alan 
alludes to in his first note.  I think it's "heroic" to try something new like 
a remote DVD install, so I applaud your initiative but can't really offer much 
else.

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You cannot open a shell into the HMC, even if you are local on the HMC. If 
you're not near the HMC, then installing from the DVD is more complicated.

1. The SE (not the HMC!) for the CPC you are using must be able to access an 
FTP server that you have set up somewhere.
2. That FTP server has the DVD mounted on it.
3. You use the HMC's 'Load from Removable Media or Server' and load from the 
FTP server.
4. Select the installer's 'install from FTP server' function and point it to 
the same FTP server.

#1 may be a show-stopper since it requires drilling a small hole in your HMC/SE 
LAN.  Adjust the firewalls to allow only a limited number of communications 
partners with the SE. (And, no, the HMC cannot act as an FTP proxy.)

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I realize now, Steve, that no one has ever stopped to explain to you how the 
mainframe accesses the DVD.

Every LPAR has an associated I/O configuration that includes disk drives, tape 
drives, fibre channel adapters, display terminals, and network adapters.

But no DVD drive and no USB drives.  They are accessed differently.
Without the additional support that Mark referred to in one of his first 
responses, the installer cannot access the removable media on the HMC.

When you the "Load from removable media or FTP server" recovery task, that 
media is automatically authorized to be accessed by the LPAR, and it remains so 
until the LPAR is deactivated, you load another LPAR from that same media, or 
you manually release the media.  (I don't remember if placing the back-up media 
into the drive causes it to be disconnected from the LPAR or not.)

You might imagine an LPAR wanting access to the DVD later.  It can, via the 
"Access Removable Media" recovery task on the HMC.  That's how you allow the VM 
FTP server to access to the removable media outside of the Load From DVD 
process.

That way you can install Linux using a network installation to access the DVD 
without going outside the box.  Of course, you don't have z/VM.

But if Linux gets a driver for the HMC removable media, it will be able to 
access the removable media or the remote FTP server to complete the 
installation without having to have a network connection to the LPAR itself.

That's how z/VM and z/OS are able to be installed from the HMC.

Alan Altmark

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Best regards
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve P
Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Install of SUSE Linux on IBM z LPAR

Thank Mark for your detailed response. I have check all that and all the 
network config is there and I can see the OSA and all the IP addresses.

I don't think I will be using the z/OS FTP server.

Thanks also Alan for your input. I am continuing to try accessing the hmc FTP 
server by way of enabling the access to the DVD. It doesn't seem to be working 
and continue to get the no repository found. So now the challenge is how to 
help the network group in figuring out how to open that access between the 
installer/lpar and the FTP network of the hmc DVD.

Any ideas?

I will also look at a network FTP server outside of the hmc. Since the DVD is 
at a different location than where I am, I will have to find a way to copy them 
from the DVD to an FTP server without losing its integrity.

Thanks.

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 03:46 EST, Steve P <[email protected] 
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > So for the FTP  file server I can use the hmc enable FTP access to 
> > mass storage media giving the installer the IP address of the hmc. 
> > And giving the lpar IP address to the hmc FTP facility (for lack of 
> > a better name/word).  I just want to know for sure If this is valid option
> > for me.   If not then I will abandon it and move to other options.
>
> Yes, using the HMC as an FTP server is a valid option.
>
> > > If it helps, know that there are special instructions that must be
> used to
> > > read the data from the DVD from inside the LPAR.  The LPAR is 
> > > still authorized to use those instructions (like VM TCP/IP does), 
> > > but
> without
> > > that removable media device driver, the authorization does it no good.
> > >
> > >
> > The special instructions you're talking about is the proverbial 
> > device driver that IBM is yet to develop/allow. Correct?  So for now 
> > an IP
> network
> > is best?
>
> Correct, the special instructions would be used by a DVD device 
> driver. So for now, an IP network your best (only) choice.  The only 
> question is how much control you have over the environment.
>
> If you wanted to, you could set up an FTP server on your own 
> workstation, put the DVD into your workstation's DVD drive, tell the HMC to 
> Load from
> FTP Server.   Then point to the installer to your FTP server.
>
> Alan Altmark
>
> Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant Lab Services System z 
> Delivery Practice IBM Systems & Technology Group 
> ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
> office: 607.429.3323
> mobile; 607.321.7556
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