VM:Secure is also the only security product that was designed from the ground 
up for z/VM.  All of the others are ports from z/OS.  RACF tries to fit z/OS 
concepts such as "alter" and "control" onto z/VM link modes (W, M, MR, MW, 
etc).  VM:Secure allows you to write rules specifying the link modes directly.  
I'm not too familiar with ACF2 or Top Secret, but I would guess that they are 
similar to RACF.

If you choose a security product other than VM:Secure, you can implement 
VM:Director instead of Dirmaint for directory management.  VM:Director is 
VM:Secure without the Rules component.

                                                                                
                                                            Dennis O'Brien

"Houston, we've had a problem."  -- Jack Swigert, Command Module pilot of 
Apollo 13, 13 Apr 1970

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy 
Cortes
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 09:23
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Security for z/VM

I will point out that VM:Secure is one product for your directory management 
and security.
If you choose RACF, you also need to implement Dirmaint.
I believe ACF2 is the same way.  I know Top Secret on VM is.



-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan 
Altmark
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:08 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Security for z/VM

On Wednesday, 05/04/2016 at 05:19 GMT, "Beard, Rick" <rick.be...@atos.net> 
wrote:
> I would like to know if anyone has any preferences on using either 
CA:VMSECURE or CA:ACF2 for
> securing z/VM systems?
>
> Is one more secure than the other?

CA has not certified either product in the Common Criteria scheme ("claim" 
and "proof"), so you can't really answer "How secure is it?"  You cannot, 
therefore, compare them in that respect.  In fact, only RACF on z/VM has 
been part of a certification.

That said, most people choose their external security manager (ESM) for 
reasons unrelated to its capabilities. The choice is instead based on
1. What's in your IBM or CA software catalog. I.e. if you've already 
bought one of them, then spending money to buy the other one may not be 
the right choice.
2. In-house knowledge.  If you have RACF, ACF2, or TOP SECRET on z/OS, 
then adding it to z/VM is straightforward.  VMSECURE has no z/OS 
equivalent, so you aren't going to get any help from your MVS team.
3. Easiest.  All of the examples and discussion from IBM on z/VM security 
are RACF-centric.

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
Lab Services System z Delivery Practice
IBM Systems & Technology Group
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

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