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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:19:28 +1000
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On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:38:16PM +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
>> IMHO this is all to do with spammers trying to open up proxies or
>> zombies.
>yes, a lot of it is.
>> There's some really intelligent, proff stuff going on right now. That Gibson
>> fellow who warned this was going to happen 3 years ago when Microsoft was
>> going to release XP without a firewall and for the first time with raw
>> sockets was dead right. Everybody was calling him an idiot, I never thought
>> so.
>i always did, and still do (at least WRT his Chicken Little impersonation over
>the raw sockets issue).
>the problem isn't that XP applications can open raw sockets. any application
>on any operating system should be able to do that. complaining about a
>network-capable OS being able to open and listen to sockets makes about as much
>sense as complaining that a car has those really dangerous wheel thingies
>(because without wheels on cars, roads would be almost perfectly safe).
>the problem is that XP's "security" model allow malicious applications
>to replace core parts of the operating system.
>the problem is that applications are allowed to do things that they shouldn't.
>The problem is that MS Windows programmers, even Microsoft's own programmers,
>have no understanding of even basic security principles...and that lack of
>understanding is propagated and enforced on end-users even if they are aware of
>security issues. e.g. i was looking at a friend's Win2K machine a few days
>ago, at a game they'd installed called Age Of Mythology (a MS product). i
>tried to run it as a normal user, but it refused to run claiming that it needed
>Administrator priviledges. Now that particular game (which is quite
>entertaining, btw) isn't a virus or a worm, and the installation CDs weren't
>infected either...but requiring Administrator privs to run an application on an
>OS that actually has a concept of different users with different priviledges is
>sheer idiocy. it's asking for trouble, and it teaches users that security is
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>nothing but an annoyance which can be avoided by logging in as Administrator.
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Apakah salah satu strategi FUD(Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) bagi makhluk
di bumi ini, bahwa Linux (dan OS yang sejenis lainnya) itu tidak menyenangkan karena
terdapat "fasilitas root"
craig
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