Linux-Advocacy Digest #560, Volume #25 Wed, 8 Mar 00 14:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Disproving the lies. (nohow)
Re: Disproving the lies. ("Drestin Black")
Re: BSD & Linux (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Drestin Black")
Re: SCI Blind Date (westprog 2000)
Re: A little advocacy.. (George Richard Russell)
Re: Disproving the lies. (Donovan Rebbechi)
The Windows GUI vs. X (Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable) (Donn Miller)
Re: Salary? ("Mr. Rupert")
Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (Matt Chiglinsky)
Re: Drestin Black = Village Idiot (Matt Corey)
Re: A little advocacy.. (Donovan Rebbechi)
Database hacked to hide Microsoft executive past? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
zlomenina nasledkem kolaborace s USA :-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Salary? (Brian Johnson)
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From: nohow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Disproving the lies.
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:15:03 -0800
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:57:12 -0500, "Nik Simpson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8a54li$6et$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > It's a very long read but it is very well documented and detailed.
>> >
[big snip]
>>
>> What if the Stock Market crashed 5 minutes/week?
>>
>
>NASDAQ runs largely on NT and that doesn't seem to be failing five minutes a
>week.
A few years back when someone touted that NASDAQ was run on NT,
actually it was just the web server, someone posted a report showing
that the Index itself was run on unix based platforms. Has this
changed?
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Disproving the lies.
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:09:16 -0500
"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8a54li$6et$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<snip>
It's nice to see you *start off* trying to sound like you are going to give
a fair rebuttle...
<quote>
> Provided that the NT/Windows 2000 environment is
> operated in a data-center-like manner
> with policies and procedures for change management,
> software updates, software
> distribution, backup/restore, and the like; and
> </quote>
>
> Again, this reaffirms my statements that when you conduct
> "standard maintenance" (which includes reboots at LEAST once
> per week, preferably once/night) and you deduct this as "scheduled
> down time" (therefore not included in availability ratings), you
> can achieve availability of around 99.97% (more on this below).
No no no no no - NO weekly reboots. I do not tell anyone to do this, I do
not know of anyone except uninformed/frightened idiot "admins" that do this.
It is completely unnecessary to reboot on any schedule UNLESS you knowing
(and willingly?) installed an applilcation with a memory/resource leak. But,
who would let such a thing continue?
>
> <quote>
> Provided that, in heterogeneous environments, third-party
> or custom code is used to enhance system manageability
> and security, as well as to improve cross-operating
> environment directory services.
> <quote>
>
> Put very simply, if you intend to server anything other than trivial
> web pages and intend to integrate to other systems - NT is NOT a
> self-contained solution. In fact, NT does not support critical
> standards required for reliable integration with Minicomputers,
> Mainframes, and SuperComputers used for truly "Mission Critical"
> environments.
Oh, really? Tell us, WHICH "critical standards?"
I did not know NT was intended for SuperComputers?
>
> > NT is reliable
> > and definately enterprise ready. W2K even
> > much more so.
>
> <quote>
> Table 1
> Early Adopter Reliability Statistics on Windows 2000
>
> Customer # Run Time (years) Down Time Availability
> Percentage
> 1 0.45 0.10 99.94
> 2 4.18 0.84 99.95
> 3 0.09 0.01 99.96
> 4 0.30 0.00 100.00
> 5 0.65 0.09 99.96
> 6 0.84 0.07 99.98
> 7 0.72 0.01 100.00
> 8 0.81 0.41 99.86
> 9 0.39 0.13 99.91
> Totals: 8.42 1.65 99.95
>
> Source: Microsoft Corporation, February 2000
> </quote>
Ahhh... and this is where the creative math comes into play...
>
> Let's see what 99.95% availability really means. There are
> 7 days/week 24 hours/day and 60 minutes/hour or 10080 minutes.
> That means that you can expect an average of 5 minutes of
> unscheduled down-time per week. Furthermore, the highest
> likelihood of a failure is during peak-hour load, during
> the most critical period. Often, secondary numbers giving
> times of 90% uptimes on a 12x6 basis (mon-sat 7am-7pm) tend
> to indicate that most failures happen during "prime-time".
I'm going to do a big snip here because, yes, 99.95% availablity OVER A WEEK
would result in 5 minutes. However, these are NOT weekly figures. These are
YEARLY figures. I'll repeat. YEARLY figures. You CANNOT simply switch the
meaning of a figure at your convience. You cannot simply say, well, this is
a year figure but I'll just change it into a weekly figure cause it sounds
better fo rme.
Rex - this is where you do everyone a disservice. When they say 99.95 (but
you didnt' mention the 99.99 or 100% figures did you?) over a year, they
mean cumulative for the whole year. that means that it's VERY possible for
there to be 100.000% uptime for 11 months solid and then during a single
month there was a single extended downtime (perhaps for maintence and
upgrades and a major software upgrade/reconfiguration). You simply CANNOT
start spouting 5 min/week when that is NOT AT ALL what they said or claimed
or imply.
<snip>
Nice for you to forget/miss the two 100% uptime figures. AND, let's not
forget that these downtimes are not necessarily crashes, and it doesn't say
crash anywhere. Assuming these are controlled down times (forced or
voluntary) - can we not assume that these admins would not pick the middle
of the busiest day to do these things? "Hmm, we need to apply a service pack
which will require a reboot. How about middle of Wednesday?" No, I don't
think so. So, the 5 minutes of downtime that a SP would take could be done
at the very least busiest time (you DO keep detailed logs to know exactly
when that is of course, I do). and so it's impact would be minimal, possibly
no impact at all if you have two servers and take one down while the other
continues. You are forgetting that no one said that this was one single
server that goes down and takes the whole company off line - big companies
have this thing you may have heard of called redundancy... so, even if they
DID have to go down or crash during the middle of the day, another machine
just picks up the load and continues... but MS correctly counts this.
So - your little 5min/week thing is complete bullshit and fabricated through
convienent reworking of numbers/facts into something that appeals to you but
does NOT represent the truth.
NT: more active users than linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD & Linux
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:23:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 7 Mar 2000 03:55:16 GMT...
...and Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:45:09 -0500, Donn Miller wrote:
> >would be less violent than both! :) But, I haven't really seen enough
> >soccer matches to tell. Of course, every time you hit the ball with
> >your head in soccer, 1/10th of a brain cell dies. So, if you butt the
> >ball 10 times, 1 brain cell dies! I guess soccer is pretty intense as
> >well...
>
> IIRC, head on blows hurt more but don't kill as many brain cells
> as a glancing/twisting blow. A boxer told me this -- if you want to
> knock someone out, you want their head to twist.
I don't think that kind of knock-out works by killing brain cells. The
classic knock-out happens because the medulla oblongata of the
knocked-out one snaps back and forth inside its bony casing.
mawa
--
I think it's interesting that the Athenians coined the term 'idiot'
to refer to someone who had _no_ interest in politics.
-- Wayne Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:13:56 -0500
"Michael C. Vergallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
> >Also, Win2K meets all the base criteria for even being CONSIDERED
> >to be tested, whereas Linux does not.
>
> Wrong Linux got C2 certified ones and I bet you if the cost was not that
> prohibive Linux would get C2 for every version and flavour.
> Michael
Excuse me? Linux got C2 certified once? Bullshit! Prove it.
And I will take your bet on every version and flavour of C2 certification -
name the amount.
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From: westprog 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.culture.irish
Subject: Re: SCI Blind Date
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:20:35 GMT
In article <8a60dl$q1t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fr. Des <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8a5tp3$nqr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> westprog 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SNIP
> > > Please rank the following in order of preference:
> > > Chateau Mouton Rotschild, 1985; Chateau Mouton Rotschild 1986; A
> > > large bottle of Smithwicks; A cup of tea.
> > VMS
> > NT
> > Unix
> You know; I could almost go for you given your rankings here
> (especially
> given your drinking habits). Do not be surprised if you get the
> Charlton Heston/Barry Fitzgerald date. Who cares about mere political
> differences when we both agree that Unix is ehhhhhh; not necessarily a
> good thing.
> Fr. Des++
A belief that *ix is the work of the devil is one thing - but where do
you stand on the Alex Harvey question?
--
J. (Looking Backward)
http://www.csicop.org/si/9803/gardner.html
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Richard Russell)
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:07:25 GMT
On 7 Mar 2000 20:53:13 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Well, I know a bit about desktop Linux, and where and why it fails.
>
>YMMV. It doesn't "fail" on my desktop. I can see where usability
>improvements could be made, bu that hardly alters the fact that "Drestin"'s
>post was pure cr*p, and frankly, I'm surprised to see you bending it
>and attemptijng to salvage his arguments ( by restating them in a
>reverse-strawman manner ) to make them look half credible.
If the usability problems and support gaps are big enough for him to notice
them, then Linux needs fixing, and the more people that know it the more it'll
annoy someone enough for them to fix it.
i.e.
Specialised niche software - say Taxes, Accounting, boring stuff with little
kudos to developers.
Drivers for boring hw - printers, scanners, PDA's not the Pilot (i.e. Psion),
stuff thats done well enough to say eg want Linux + PDA? Use a Pilot - despite
a Psion being more popular and arguably better here.
Some consideration for Usability - its easier to to add fonts to GEM than to
X11 - and yes, I have read the howto, and think that end users must be equated
with cockroaches by the writers of most Unix software.
Novice documentation is always nice to have.
George Russell
--
One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
Lord of the Rings, J.R.R.Tolkien
Hey you, what do you see? Something beautiful, something free?
The Beautiful People, Marilyn Manson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Disproving the lies.
Date: 8 Mar 2000 18:14:28 GMT
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:09:16 -0500, Drestin Black wrote:
>month there was a single extended downtime (perhaps for maintence and
>upgrades and a major software upgrade/reconfiguration). You simply CANNOT
"Downtime" almost always means "unscheduled downtime". It certainly means
that in the case of uptime gaurantees ( hint: how can you gaurantee against
scheduled downtime ? )
Why would they want to make themselves look bad by including scheduled
outages?
>forget that these downtimes are not necessarily crashes, and it doesn't say
>crash anywhere. Assuming these are controlled down times (forced or
That's a very bad assumption. ( can you show us where it states that scheduled
outages are included ? If they were, they should surely mention it, because
clarifying this point would make them look a lot better. )
>So - your little 5min/week thing is complete bullshit and fabricated through
>convienent reworking of numbers/facts into something that appeals to you but
>does NOT represent the truth.
You've assumed ( probably incorrectly ) that scheduled downtime is included
in those figures. The truth is that uptime stats rarely if ever include
scheduled downtime.
If it really is true that all the downtime is scheduled, then that's certainly
a good thing. But frankly, I doubt it.
--
Donovan
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:19:52 -0500
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: The Windows GUI vs. X (Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable)
Mike Kenzie wrote:
> So having no choice of widgets is a feature now. And the Blue Screen is
> not my idea of great graphics.
But with Windows, you don't _have_ to use the default widgets in the
Win32 API. You can override it with your own. Ever see Gtk running
under Windows? Microsoft did a pretty good job of providing a
practical and good-looking GUI. I kind of like the fact that all the
widgets look the same under Windows. And, I like how the "file open"
dialogs are integrated with the desktop. One thing Windows has is
consistency.
With X, a lot of times you have numerous apps that all have different
widget sets & look and feel. Also, the DnD doesn't work between a
Motif and Qt app, for example. X is a great windowing system in that
you have a choice as to your look and feel. But, it looks live you've
got a mish-mash of different GUIs and look and feel if you've got a
Qt, Gtk, and Motif app open on my screen. And please, let's knock off
the bitching about Motif, OK? I happen to like Motif, and Lesstif
works very well if you don't have the money to buy a Motif license.
The general consensus in these unix/linux NGs is that "We all hate
Motif, and we should all be using Gtk because GNOME rulez" or "we
should all be using Qt because KDE is so popular". Linux/unix people
tell me (and I'm one myself) that Qt/KDE is the best thing that ever
happened to X, because now we finally have some consistence in X's
look and feel. The same people are saying X is better than Windows'
Windowing system/GUI, because X gives you a choice in widget
sets/look-n-feel. So, what's the point in having multiple widget sets
if I'm supposed to despise Motif and love KDE or GNOME because it has
"consistency"? Don't people see the contradiction there? What's the
point in even having a mechanism for different widget sets if we're
only "supposed" to be running KDE with Qt or GNOME with Gtk? What
good does the "mechanism, not policy" do for X in that case? Well,
then stop bitching about Motif and non-{Qt,Gtk} widget sets then,
people!
Guys, it's OK to like Motif. Remember, us unix people were the ones
trumpeting about how great X is because it allows for any GUI we
wish. We should also note that it's possible to create any widget set
for Windows that we wish; we don't have to use the Windows GUI/widget
sets if we don't like. Hello people, Lesstif IS Motif comaptible!
Knock knock, Lesstif? Ever hear of Lesstif? It's - I SAID, LESSTIF
IS FREE! YES, THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S FREE, AS IN FREE BEER. YOU CAN
DOWNLOAD IT TO YOUR COMPUTER, YOU KNOW, THAT THING YOU'RE READING THIS
MESSAGE ON? HELLO? IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEMORY LEAKS, YOU KNOW, THOSE
THINGS MOTIF HATERS ALL ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT? AND YES, LESSTIF IS
FREE, AND IT IS MOTIF (practically)! AND YES, I WANT TO HAVE A CHOICE
IN WIDGET SETS, YOU KNOW, CHOICE, THAT THING YOU'RE ALWAYS CRYIN'
ABOUT? NO, I DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO RUN KDE OR GNOME BECAUSE A
UNIX CRYBABY HATES MOTIF!!! Lesstif is an alternative, you know,
lesstif? Ever hear of that? HELLO?????@!!!
I don't run Windows, but I was just trying to make a point here.
- Donn
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From: "Mr. Rupert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:35:33 -0600
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:33:47 -0800...
> ...and Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder sometimes how Europeans can live at all. Everything seems so much
> > more expensive over there, and apparantly, their salaries are lower, too.
>
> So we Europeans can't afford 3 SUVs per household. I reckon that's an
> advantage.
>
> Seriously: The standard of living here in Germany is rather higher
> than in the United States.
In what respect is the standard of living higher in Germany than in the
USA?
> As for salaries, they aren't necessarily
> lower, if they're lower, that's usually compensated by a much lower
> number of workhours per week and per lifetime.
>
The reduced number of workhours is strangling your country.
> Also take in account that we've got the state taking care of our
> health, pension etc., that is we don't need to pay private health
> insurances and such from our salary after taxes unless we want to.
>
Also take into account that the USA is the world leader in advanced medical
treatment and research. The Houston Medical Center is the largest medical
center in the world, not to mention the rest of the USA's medical centers.
When the rich and powerful of this world get sick and are on their last prayer,
they head to the Houston Medical Center.
--
The always friendly, always lovable, and highly presentable,
Mr Rupert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 18:41:53 GMT
On 8 Mar 2000 16:59:45 GMT, Joseph T. Adams wrote:
>Except that there is still a great deal of upward mobility here.
Mostly I agree with this comment. However, the education system leaves
a lot to be desired. This does cause problems, especially in underfunded
schools. The localisation of school funding IMO is a thinly veiled scam
to keep money out of the poorer districts. However, some states are making
steps to correct these funding anomolies.
Having said that, the wealthy school districts aren't always the good ones,
and assuming your parents try to locate to a decent school district, one
can end up in a good decent school. I know immigrants who came
to the US penniless, and their parents had to slave away in menial jobs,
but they put their kids into decent schools and later, decent state
Universities.
>A surprisingly and saddeningly large amount of poverty persists in the
>U.S.,
Overrated IMO. There are food handouts which makes it unlikely that anyone
will go hungry. And even most of the "poor" have hot water, food, electricity,
refrigerators, stereos and TV.
> but much of it can be explained by the breakdown of the family,
>our dismal "education" system,
These two are a big part of it.
> institutionalized racism
Over-rated but not nonexistent. IMO, this is only a small part of
the problem. I think minorities are at times guilty of playing the
"racism" card instead of facing up to problems in their communities.
I think that where "racism" ( for want of a better word ) kicks in is
in the "networking". It's simply easier to "network" with your own race.
( Women have the same problem in male dominated industries btw ) This
problem is extremely subtle and also somewhat self-perpetuating. It's
precisely the kind of thing that affirmative action was designed to
( but often fails to ) address.
This problem doesn't make people poor, but it creates glass ceilings.
>forms of corruption, and the relatively recent demise of much of our
>heavy industry, which used to provide well-paying employment for
>unskilled and semi-skilled workers.
I think that part of the problem is that everyone seems to think that they
need to go to University, when in fact many people who go simply do not
have the talent or interest to pursue something that academic. I'm
talking about kids who flunk college algebra 3 times over. Where I'm
from, these guys would not meet the requirements to enter a University,
unless you count special music schools, art schools or whatever.
A lot of these people would stand a much better chance of placing themselves
in some form of gainful employment if they went to a trade school and
developed a useful skill. All University seems to do to these guys is
label them as no-hopers, and while they're hardly tomorrow's Einsteins,
they are capable of contributing something useful to society.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Chiglinsky)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: 8 Mar 2000 18:42:03 GMT
On 8 Mar 2000 16:39:16 GMT,
Michael C. Vergallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8a5tk7$mnq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>>"Wolfgang Weisselberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>> As of today, W2K is as much C2 as Linux. Untested.
>>
>>However, since Win2K is built primarily on NT, which is C2 certified,
>>it's a lot more likely Win2K will be able to be ceritified without
>>much modification.
>Wrong chad... you see you can only apply C2 certification to one version
>of an OS when you modify the OS you will have to resubmit it for
>certification... So Win2K is not certified as was NT4... NT3.51 was the only
>one that got C2 certification however this is only the OS so when you have a
>mixed networked environment your C2 is worth sqaut...
Umm...did you read what you reponded to? He didn't say Win2k WAS
certified. He said it is likely to be. Also, NT4 was recently
certified so your statement about NT3.51 being the only one is somewhat
incorrect.
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From: Matt Corey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Drestin Black = Village Idiot
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:44:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:43:14 GMT, Curious G wrote:
> >Matt Corey wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Drestin Yellow: Give him a wide brimmed yellow hat to go with it
and
> >> he can escort a very curious monkey around. (I think I just dated
> >> myself)
> >>
> >If that's true, them I'm in serious trouble.
>
> I wouldn't worry about it excessively. I read all those as a child as
> well. I'm only 24. Don't know if that helps or not.
>
> --
> JC
>
>
I'm only 28 and I'm reading them to my kids now. I think I've got
"Curious George gets a medal" memorized. My 4 year old won't go to
sleep without it!
Matt
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: 8 Mar 2000 18:55:59 GMT
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:07:25 GMT, George Richard Russell wrote:
>Specialised niche software - say Taxes, Accounting, boring stuff with little
>kudos to developers.
The "little kudos to the developers" thing is a myth. The real problem
here is that most developers are not accountants and vice versa. You
don't have to be a professional musician to write a midi player, but you
do need to know some basic accounting to write accounting software.
>Drivers for boring hw - printers, scanners,
Printer drivers could do with some work. The main thing that's needed
is improvements in the existing ones. IMO, reverse-engineering every
Winprinter out there is a waste of time. Better to get an acceptable
level of support for PS and PCL printers.
>Some consideration for Usability - its easier to to add fonts to GEM than to
>X11 -
Adding to X11 is a piece of cake. On Redhat, run type1inst and then
run chkfontpath. Hardly brain surgery. The *real* problem is that
adding fonts to X will not help you when you need to print. You need
to add the font to X, then to *every single application* that needs
to print your font.
> and yes, I have read the howto, and think that end users must be equated
>with cockroaches by the writers of most Unix software.
The UNIX software itself is not really the problem. ( Star Office for example
does a fairly good job with font installation ) The problem is that
there needs to be a standard way to unify display and printing of fonts.
Until then, it doesn't really matter how well or badly you write an
application, the users will still need to negotiate 101 different font
managers just to get their fonts to print.
>Novice documentation is always nice to have.
It's being worked on. Hey, you sound like just the kind of guy who'd be
good at doing something like this. Go right ahead. Speaking of novice
documentation, I hope my font HOWTO was comprehensible. I tried to
make it as ungeeky as possible.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,alt.hacker,alt.2600
Subject: Database hacked to hide Microsoft executive past?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:49:35 GMT
Database hacked to hide Microsoft executive past
Czech database of the "former" KGB spies, which also included name of
recently appointed head of Microsoft Central Europe was hacked and name
of the Head of Microsoft Central Europe removed.
Mr. Peter Cibulka, long time dissident in former Czechoslovakia and now
dissident in the Czech Republic, is publishing information about
the "Velvet Swindle" and continuing domination of "former" communists
in all important spheres of public life in the Czech Republic. Mr.
Cibulka published highly controversial, but most likely highly accurate
database of agents and cooperators of communist secret service StB
(State Security), which was run directly by KGB. According this
database over 80% of all members of Czech Republic diplomatic corps are
former StB or KGB agents.
Software expert Martin Pokorny from GreenBottle Software
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is commenting on recent hacking of Mr. Cibulka
database:
Name in question is not on the server because database of Mr. Cibulka
was modified from the outside by highly professional, expert
manipulation. Internet database is (should be) exact copy of local
database of Mr. Cibulka. I verified, that all Internet applications are
showing something else than if I have the same applications work with
local database.
I personally believe that it could not be work of "ordinary" hacker(s).
Content of database is encrypted and protected by password (illogical
combination of symbols). To discover the password 1,500,000,000,000
variations is needed. Password is not stored in the database or on the
server, nor in the scripts!
Person(s) who hacked the database must have very good, detailed
knowledge of Pervasive.SQL, encryption technology and internal
structure of collection 8230. Considering that Pervasive SQL is not
very common in the Czech Republic, I do not think that very many
hackers in the Czech Republic are familiar with it (capable of hacking
it).
Martin Pokorny
GreenBottle Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,alt.hacker,alt.2600
Subject: zlomenina nasledkem kolaborace s USA :-)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:54:29 GMT
http://www.idnes.cz/idskosile/mfdnes/mfjiznimorava.asp?
c=057mfjiznimorava_2_2
8.3.2000 Jizni Morava - strana 2
REKTOR MA ZLOMENY PALEC
Rektoruv zlomeny palec je vysledek pondelniho vajickoveho utoku
anarchistu na americkou ministryni zahranici Madelaine Albrightovou.
Rektor Masarykovy univerzity Jiri Zlatuska, ktery prisel ke zlomenine
pri spontannim chraneni Albrightove a odnesl tak utok pri tlacenici
nejhure, musel vcera prijit k odhalovani sochy prvniho ceskoslovenskeho
prezidenta o berlich. "V pracovni neschopnosti ovsem nejsem, rodina by
totiz musela jist korinky. Chodim radeji s jednou nohou v bote a s
druhou v sandale," uvedl Zlatuska.
Autor: (pu)
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From: Brian Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:02:32 GMT
"Mr. Rupert" wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > As for salaries, they aren't necessarily
> > lower, if they're lower, that's usually compensated by a much lower
> > number of workhours per week and per lifetime.
> >
>
> The reduced number of workhours is strangling your country.
>
or perhaps the larger number of workhours is strangling our country? :) I'm just
starting my career, so don't have the chance at this point, but in the future if I
can afford to do so, I will definatly choose a shorter workweek instead of a
bigger check.. what good's the check if your working all the time and can't
enjoy it?
-Brian
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