Linux-Advocacy Digest #157, Volume #26           Sun, 16 Apr 00 13:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  .DLL not present in W2K, MICROSOFT GUILTY OF COVERUP! (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! ("James L.  Ryan")
  Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU! (Carl Fink)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! ("Tim Mayer")
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! ("Tim Mayer")
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (mlw)
  Re: Linux Video problem (Jeff Hall)
  Re: VA Linux: Worlds most overpriced PC (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (C Lund)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Michael Carter)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Michael Sims)
  Re: .DLL not present in W2K, MICROSOFT GUILTY OF COVERUP! ("Chad Myers")
  Re: What GUI development tools are there for Linux? (Donovan Rebbechi)

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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: .DLL not present in W2K, MICROSOFT GUILTY OF COVERUP!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:40:02 GMT

Since the .dll in question was not found in Windows 2000 release, then Microsoft
was
aware of .dll and took it out of release.  Appearently Microsoft just FORGOT to
warn us and the rest of the world about their ILLEGAL BACKDOOR.

This makes them guilty of a consipiracy against Netscape Corporation as
well as guilty of de-frauding everybody who ran a Netscape server in those
day's as some Microsoft Troll was hacking into their site and dropping
their server every chance he got!

This can leave only ONE alternative for the Judge and that would be to
break up Microsoft into very small peices.

So, my original marketing estimates, given Linux growth will have to be moved up!

2006 was OUTSIDE estimate for Microsoft's survival as an OS company.
That was OUTSIDE given Linux's tremendous growth the last 3 years, the
fact that 50% of all servers sold in 1999 had Linux installed on them.

If Microsoft is broken up I'm going to move their OS companies demise up
by 2 years to 2004.

The reason for this is the Back Office people's decision to come out with a
distribution of their own to compete with Coral.

And the Database and development tools company will want to do the same
to compete with Borland.

It only makes sense that the other former Microsoft companies will want
to compete with the rest of the human race and come in out of the cave
they've been hiding in.

Boy!  What a great WINDFALL for the Linux community!
Bill Gates and Microsoft CAUGHT in crimes against the WORLD again!

Of course, even if they were honest, Linux sales would have forced Bill Gates
into a decision to continue on with his OS effort at the 2006 point.

Linux has ALREADY done serious damage to his marketing efforts for the first
quarter of 2000, Linux is actually ahead of Microsoft in market share due to
the release of W2K.

This on top of the fact there is no dual path OS structure anymore of a 95 or 98
and
an NT.  Bill Gates relealizes he's in for the fight of his life now in a futile
attempt
to defeat an operating system backed by NO-business he can grasp!

Linux is a ghost which he can't defeat.  A free source OS which can litterally
be downloaded over the internet as with Mandrake 7.0 and installed with a graphical
installer
as it's downloading!  OR a boxed OS for well under $100.

I've actually run a copy of Applix now I've had for 5 years.  I've never been able
to make
a Microsoft product survive over 5 years as with every new operating system they
seem
to FORCE you to re-buy everything.  Nothing works quite right anymore or is missing

the features it needs to enjoy the new OS.

But in the 5 years I've had Applix, I've never had to replace it during the 5
upgrades I've done to
the OS.  Every new version is totally upward compatible with my old software.

And you know the BUGS reported in Linux are fixed much more quickly than with
Microsoft
as we get bug patches almost daily available to the public.  I'm not waiting 6
months for some
service pack or 4 years for the next Microsoft OS to come out!

Just a whole different world in the Linux community where things actually work
right
and have the security fixes applied in reasonable time, and yet  see no
"NETSCAPEENGINEERSAREWEENIES" in my code or have any extraneous, NON-REPORTED
.dll's to remove from my system which cause serious security leaks.

By the way, have I told you the KDE desktop just smokes any Microsoft desktop.
Why can't Microsoft provide it's users with 8 seperate desktops to store all their
opened applications.
Why minimize then maximize to go back and forth all the time?  Did you know I can
just take my mouse
and convert those 8 seperate desktops into one BIG OPEN RANGE one which my mouse is
my horse
and I can go expore the OPEN RANGE!   HA HA!

So Linux was the first to come out with the HORSE!

I don't know why people tolerate the security leaks in Microsoft nor the bugs in
Microsoft,
nor the lack of thought which went into Windows 2000.  It's inferior.

There is truely NOTHING you can do better on W2K over a copy of Mandrake 7.0.
Or for that matter Suse 6.4, or Caldera 2.X ,or Redhat 6.2, or Debian 2.2, or
Slackware 7.0, or, or ,or ,or ,or.......

Your not just STUCK with one form of distribution and ONE form of support in my
world either!

Why people stick with Microsoft is strange to me.  I left completely about 2 years
ago.
About when 98 came out.  Never looked back.  I have everything here I had back on a
Microsoft OS plus
MUCH MUCH MORE I never knew existed.

I want everybody who's reading this in a windows COMP advocay list to go them a box
of
Mandrake 7.0 or Suse 6.4 and load it on thier machines this week.

Do that.  End your slavery!

Charlie







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Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
From: "James L.  Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:07:02 GMT

in article wukK4.42391$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Mayer at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 4/16/00 10:54 AM:

> How does the Mac handle printing one document while you edit another?

Just fine! The document to be printed is placed in a print queue and while
this queue is being serviced you are free to do whatever else you wish,
including editing other documents or running other applications.

-- James L. Ryan -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: 16 Apr 2000 16:07:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is *way* too crossposted.  Please do as I'm doing and set your
followups to comp.os.linux.advocacy only.

Thank you.

("IT"?)
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>

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From: "Tim Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:10:45 GMT


"C Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <RHkK4.42413$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Mayer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > You mean having different docs in each their window? How is that
> > > unintuitive? If you're sitting at a desk looking at multiple
documents, do
> > > they magically crawl onto the same sheet of paper or do they stick to
each
> > > their sheet?
> > But would you use your existing piece of paper to create or open new
> > documents? That's what I think is unintuitive. Using your desk metaphor,
> > every piece of paper is completely independent, but in the Mac OS
they're
> > not. The Windows model more closely mimic the behavior of a folder,
where
> > you have multiple documents within a folder. This is why you get
multiple
> > windows within the application since it represents a single folder.
>
> Sounds to me like your description of the Windows folder better describes
> the Mac. One app (or folder), and hold several sheets of paper
> (documents). While in Windows, each folder can only hold a single sheet of
> paper.
>

But does the one app (or folder) actually contain several sheets of paper
(documents), or are they all scattered about on the desktop? IMO, by
creating multiple windows for a single application, where each window
represents a single document that are both connected yet divorced is
confusing.

Windows gives you the ability to do either or both in any combination that
makes sense to you. Perhaps MDI should have been dropped as Windows evolved,
but never was for legacy reasons.

Tim





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From: "Tim Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:14:02 GMT


<jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)> wrote in message
news:L9BY9tzSDwrQ-pn2-kidDpH2OpmtO@localhost...
> "Tim Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually Windows 98 keyboards have a power key. For legacy support
reasons,
> > hitting the space bar or a mouse button will have the same affect.
However,
> > when using the soft power-down mode, just moving the mouse or hitting
any
> > key will cause it to immediately (< 5 seconds in my experience) return
to a
> > powered up state.
> >
> >
> Isn't that more a matter for the BIOS? Sure, the O/S needs to support
> APM, but it can't do diddely all if the BIOS won't play.
>
> I have a P75 which will power down nicely under OS/2 and a P60 which
> at best will blank its monitor in Linux. The latter has no APM in the
> BIOS.

It certainly is a BIOS feature. Regardless of the operating system, this
feature will work if supported in hardware and the BIOS. Although having
both the BIOS and operating system support APM has advantages.

Tim





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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:12:29 GMT

Vlad writes:
> Lets assume that both men do their job perfectly well, however one is
> rewaded 30 times more than the other one for doing his job well.  I
> believe this is fundamnetally unfailr.

It is also fundamentally very unlikely in a free market.

> You are not forced to work for any particular employer (unless he is the
> only one in town as it often happens),...

That rarely happens here.  And when it does, what keeps you in town?

> as being self-employed isnt really an option for most

Here it is.

> So basically you are free to choose your master.

Employers aren't masters: they're customers who buy your time.  In a free
market everyone is really self-employed.

> On the countrary people living in such commnities dont lock their doors
> and are not afraid to work alone at night.

I don't lock my doors and I am not afraid to work alone at night.

> Its called unmeployment. Which is quite natural for capitalism,...

Thw woman I mentioned in my previous post?  The who was talked into not
quitting the grocery store?  If she had quit, she would have been one of
the unemployed during the weeks it would have taken her to find a new job.
I know another young woman who recently quit a job with a small
manufacturing company because she didn't like the management.  She is
currently unemployed (or was last week).  She doesn't seem to be in danger
of losing her home, though.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:20:36 -0400

Karl Knechtel wrote:
> 
> Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Why are so many trolls - indeed, so many posters to CSMA in general - named
> "Steve"? I ask for information only.
> 
> : I've been _heavily_ using Win95/98 since the day Win95 was released
> : and have _yet_ to have to play with the registry. I'll tell you what's
> : _pathetic_ and that's the back-water Mac only being able to run one
> : instance of a program at a time. (This is year 2000 ??? )  I tap the
> 
> I'll tell you what's _pathetic_ and that's the back-water standard troll
> responses about the Mac only "being able" (a phrase which implies
> incompetency on the part of Apple programmers where in fact they made a
> design choice which has been argued to death many times here) to run one
> instance of a program at a time.
> Yes, it's the year 2000. Hope your PC originally thought so too.
> 
> : spacebar twice and my  PC turns on, boots & connects to the net with
> : _3_ instances of IE running , one goes to my news site, one to web
> : mail,  and one to my online broker. With as much web intensive work as
> 
> If hitting the spacebar "turns on" your computer, it was not turned off in
> the first place. At least, I don't suppose so - with all the gimmicky PC
> keyboards I'm seeing these days I wouldn't be in the least surprised if
> they've made one where the space bar doubles as a power key.
> (ThoughIreallywonderhowyou'dwriteanythingthatdidn'tlooklikethisifitdid...)

Actually, with most electronic devices, "off" is a state of "on" ;-)
However, newer PCs and motherboards have the ability to be "off" with
only a slight power consumption running "power on" devices like
keyboards, mice, and yes, network cards. Does this mean that the CPU is
"on?" not typically.


-- 
Mohawk Software
Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support. 
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
"We've got a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the
lobster"

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From: Jeff Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Video problem
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:20:22 -0400

I had the same problem for Red Hat 6.1.  As with you, I agree that "option
no_bitblt" is what helped the most.  However, I still had problems initializing
SyS 6326 upon bootup.  My suggestion -- do NOT use the motherboard-supplied
SiS6326.  Instead, buy an inexpensive replacement and disable the SiS 6326.

Joe Kiser wrote:

> Ivan wrote:
> >
> >     I have a SiS 6326 chipset video card, I know linux supports it because
> > the driver the the X server is in the xf86config, however when selecting the
> > driver and setting the appropriate parameters up successfull, I start X
> > windows but what comes up is a black screen which I cannot see anything
> > except some of my KDE tool bar, as you have already guessed by now, I have
> > Linux Mandrake 6.0. If someone could email me the fix I would be very
> > appreciative.
>
> I had the same problem (same card, same version of Mandrake) a few
> months back.  Use vi or jed or whatever your favorite console text
> editor is and edit /etc/X11/XF86Config.  Find the section that has the
> settings for your Video Card entry.  Enter these lines:
>
> VideoRam 4096
> Option "sw_cursor"
> Option "no_bitblt"
>
> This seems to fix the problem (on my system).  Note that the 6326
> chipset can only read 4 megs of memory, even if you have 8 megs on it (I
> could have saved ten dollars had I known this when I bought the card).
> You might also try the lines:
>
> Option "edo_vram"
> Option "fast_vram"
> Option "pci_burst_on"
>
> Which may or may not help performance.  I just leave them commented out;
> I haven't noticed any speed increase playing games or anything.
> --
> -Joe Kiser
>
>  Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  WWW:  http://www.mindspring.com/~joekiser/
>
> "I walk the Earth another day
>  The wicked one that comes this way
>  Savior to my own, devil to some.
>  Mankind falls, something wicked comes."
>
>        -Iced Earth, The Coming Curse


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: VA Linux: Worlds most overpriced PC
Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:28:44 -0400

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:00:07 GMT, ax wrote:
>

>What about the so called NC (Network Computer)?  Are NCs functionally
>similar to or better than X terminals? Can NCs be used with Linux servers?
>Are they cheaper than X terminals?  Are there still NC vendors? Corel had
>sold  its NC product line. How about Oracle NCs?

I'm afraid I'm not an expert on this NC stuff. I think NCs do more 
client-side than XTerms ( which just run an X-server ) but I'm not sure.
It looks like the IBM "NC"s are diskless, but I don't think all NCs
are diskless.

Cheers,
-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:30:42 +0100

In article <9ClK4.42523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Mayer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But does the one app (or folder) actually contain several sheets of paper
> (documents), or are they all scattered about on the desktop? IMO, by
> creating multiple windows for a single application, where each window
> represents a single document that are both connected yet divorced is
> confusing.

Why would that be confusing? It's no more confusing than holding several
pieces of paper in one hand. It's actually less confusing, since the app
normally has a menu called "window" that allows the user to select the doc
he's looking for at the moment. (although that isn't usually necessary
unless some of the windows obscure others or there are a very large number
of them)

-- 

C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:33:11 -0400

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:51:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>You are not forced to work for any particular employer (unless
>he is the only one in town as it often happens), however you
>are forced to work for someone (as being self-employed isnt
>really an option for most). So basically you are free to choose your
>master. How great.

Sreiously, cut the Marxist BS rhetoric. My employer is not my "master".
My position has clearly defined responsibilities and duties, and provided
that I do my job well, I don't get a hard time. You make it sound like
all employers are overbearing slave-drivers, but this is simply a load 
of horseshit.

If it was true that people are as inherently evil and abusive of power 
as you seem to believe, then communism would do a very poor job at offering
a solution to this problem, because communism assumes that people are
essentially "good" and willing to work.

-- 
Donovan

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:24:20 -0400
From: Michael Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!



Just a quetion about Windows multitasking Explorer......  If there are several
instances of it then why do ALL of them shut down when I end task
(control-alt-delete) ONE of them?????


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sims)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:29:09 GMT

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:45:17 GMT, ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> At least in part. I think the other big advantages of multiple instances
>> over multiple docs per instance are stability related.
>
>That's true, but I can't say any apps I use regularly crash enough for 
>it to matter.

        Besides that, even with multiple instances of IE in Windows,
if one IE window crashes, it takes all the other instances of IE down
with it.  (At least on my system, with IE 4.01/Win95 OSR2).
=====================================================================
Michael Sims
michaels at akamail dot com
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."    
=====================================================================

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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: .DLL not present in W2K, MICROSOFT GUILTY OF COVERUP!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:50:53 GMT


"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Since the .dll in question was not found in Windows 2000 release, then
Microsoft
> was
> aware of .dll and took it out of release.  Appearently Microsoft just FORGOT
to
> warn us and the rest of the world about their ILLEGAL BACKDOOR.

Charlie, it's one thing to be an idiot, but a completely different thing to
outright
blatantly lie.

How many times do I have to say this? THERE IS NO BACKDOOR! It's been proven and
verified by many sources. Why can't you accept the facts?

> This makes them guilty of a consipiracy against Netscape Corporation as

How was it a conspiracy against netscape?

[SNIP More ignorant babble and flat out lies and falsehoods]

-Chad



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: What GUI development tools are there for Linux?
Date: 16 Apr 2000 13:05:56 -0400

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:39:10 GMT, Mike wrote:

[ snip ]
>> (1) an API for rendering data
>> (2) a spooling system
>> (3) a printer capability system
>> (4) UI elements for the programmers to use.

>By far my biggest peeve with Unix printing has to be related to
>X11-Postscript discrepancies, 

[ snip ]

>let's assume those things are fixed. When I print from my PC, I get a really
>nice dialog box that lets me set all kinds of settings that are specific to
>the printer (color, paper size and type, duplex, and so on) - I'm assuming
>this is item 3 on your list. 

This would be, strictly speaking, items (4) and (3).  The dialog box is 
a widget, hence goes under (4). We need a printer capability system,
and we need widgets in our favourite toolkits ( ie QT and GTK )  that
can act as "hooks" to the improved system.

>Our printer vendor has provided some print commands with a bunch of options,
>but those are command line based, 

So it looks like your real problem is (4), ie you need some widgets.

> and we haven't figured out how to use them
>from Ghostview or from within our other graphical applications.
>
>Is anyone addressing item 3?

Their are solutions like PDQ, CUPS and LPRNG. CUPS and LPRNG are 
kind of addressing (1) and (3). PDQ just addresses (3). See the printing
HOWTO for more info ( http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor )

-- 
Donovan

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