Linux-Advocacy Digest #226, Volume #26 Sun, 23 Apr 00 04:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (ostracus)
GUI + HTML (Christopher Browne)
Re: MS caught breaking web sites (Gary Connors)
Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000 (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Corel Linux Office 2000 and Win32 Emulator Making Progress (T. Max Devlin)
Re: What ever happened to DFM? (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Re: Corel Linux Office 2000 and Win32 Emulator Making Progress (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Illegal to discount software - Linux is in trouble! (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
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From: ostracus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:39:47 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deleted]
>
> PS: No such thing as a WYSIWYG editor for HTML.
>
Amaya
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: GUI + HTML
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:47:27 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when ostracus would say:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[deleted]
>> PS: No such thing as a WYSIWYG editor for HTML.
>
>Amaya
Amaya may be a _GUIed_ editor for HTML.
It is _not_ a WYSIWYG editor for HTML, because there is no unambiguous
WYG.
HTML doesn't mandate a particular display schema.
--
"What's wrong with 3rd party tools? Especially if they are free? What
the **** do you think UNIX is anyway? It's a big honkin' party of 3rd
party free tools." -- Bob Cassidy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Gary Connors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Re: MS caught breaking web sites
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:00:08 -0400
in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], laugh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
4/16/00 1:07 AM:
> Robert,
> And with Linux growing to 35% of all servers and 10% of desktops this year
> alone
> (half of those being NT replacements), there won't be much of an audience
> for any future releases of windows when and if they do make it out.
If its a "NT replacement" is not on the desktop. In the real world, NT is
not a desktop OS.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.basic,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:31:59 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Roger from alt.destroy.microsoft; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:20:40 GMT
>On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:28:55 -0400, someone claiming to be T. Max
>Devlin wrote:
>
>>Quoting Roger from alt.destroy.microsoft; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:45:45 GMT
>>>On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:44:27 -0400, someone claiming to be Rich C
>>>wrote:
>>>Assuming that the first assertion is correct, and I would be
>>>interested in proof that it is so, this just pushes the premise back
>>>one step: in what way are they forcing you to use "modern" versions
>>>of Windows?
>
>>Roger, you are so outrageously boring, it is truly amazing.
>
>So we'll just add this to the * long * list of "Questions which Max
>finds it uncomfortable to answer," shall we?
Why? You didn't ask me the question (this time, though you have a thousand
and a half times before). Incredible. Pathetic, but incredible.
[Five will get you ten that Roger just *can't* resist posting back. And if I
didn't steal his illusion of glory by using it in this statement, he would
probably say something along the general lines of "I know you are, but what am
I, nah-nah-nah-nah-nah, neiner-neiner-neiner."]
--
T. Max Devlin
Manager of Research & Educational Services
Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Corel Linux Office 2000 and Win32 Emulator Making Progress
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:42:07 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Roger from alt.destroy.microsoft; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:17:46 GMT
>On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:59:23 -0400, someone claiming to be T. Max
>Devlin wrote:
>
>>This is the thing that interests me. What are the issues and disputes that
>>could arise from running MS Office on Wine? Wouldn't this be a violation of
>>the EULA (I seem to recall one of those outrageously excessive clauses I was
>>forced to agree to saying something about "you can only run this on the os
>>which we allow you to", that being, of course, Microsoft (c) (tm) (r) (pat.
>>pend.).
>
>This was the copy that they held the gun to your head to make you
>install on that Gateway notebook which doesn't exist?
What?
>There are no such clauses in the EULA for OFfice 2000 nor Office 97
>SR2, those being the only versions I have access to currently to
>check.
There will be, if Wine ever threatens Microsoft's monopoly.
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T. Max Devlin
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Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Subject: Re: What ever happened to DFM?
Date: 23 Apr 2000 06:42:44 GMT
I've been wondering the same thing.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Corel Linux Office 2000 and Win32 Emulator Making Progress
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:43:50 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Roger from alt.destroy.microsoft; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 03:38:31 GMT
>On 23 Apr 2000 01:32:10 GMT, someone claiming to be Damien wrote:
>>On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:17:46 GMT, in alt.destroy.microsoft,
>>Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>>| On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:59:23 -0400, someone claiming to be T. Max
>>| Devlin wrote:
>
>>| >This is the thing that interests me. What are the issues and disputes that
>>| >could arise from running MS Office on Wine? Wouldn't this be a violation of
>>| >the EULA (I seem to recall one of those outrageously excessive clauses I was
>>| >forced to agree to saying something about "you can only run this on the os
>>| >which we allow you to", that being, of course, Microsoft (c) (tm) (r) (pat.
>>| >pend.).
>
>>| There are no such clauses in the EULA for OFfice 2000 nor Office 97
>>| SR2, those being the only versions I have access to currently to
>>| check.
>
>>There is no reason to believe that the EULA is the same for all
>>shipped copies of MS Office, nor that the EULA will change in the
>>future.
>
>Without evidence to the contrary, there is more reason to believe this
>than to believe that such a significant clause would be a part of only
>some licenses. Have you such evidence?
Boring.
--
T. Max Devlin
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Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Subject: Re: Illegal to discount software - Linux is in trouble!
Date: 23 Apr 2000 06:46:37 GMT
>Oh boy. So it's illegal to give a DISCOUNT on software?
It's probably a reference to the fact that an OEM full copy of Windows 98 costs
100USD retail (when I got one with a new mainboard)-- and presumably less
wholesale, and a consumer full copy costs 200USD.
>what are they going to do when they are giving away
>Linux for FREE???
It's the same whether I go in as CoeurFuege Industrial Microsystems, or myself.
$0 a copy. No OEM special pricing, just the fee for media/convinence.
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