Linux-Advocacy Digest #353, Volume #27           Mon, 26 Jun 00 18:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:     (Aaron 
Kulkis)
  Re: Processing data is bad! (rich)
  Re: Windows98
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:     (Aaron 
Kulkis)
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS? (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS? (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Windows98
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh ("Marcus Turner")
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh ("Marcus Turner")
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    Microsoft 
Ruling Too Harsh
  Re: Comparing Windows NT and UNIX System Management
  Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
  Re: Comparing Windows NT and UNIX System Management
  Re: Fan of General Wojciech Jaruzelski? was Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose 
Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
  Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (Andy Newman)
  Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft Ruling 
Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh ("Marcus Turner")
  Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS? (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: correct way of 8-bit char encoding? (Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?=)
  Re: LILO problems -- Any suggestions? (Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?=)

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:52:59 -0400



Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> >>         Russia is clearly in *disarray*.
> 
> >Wrong....the CIVILIAN POPULATION is in disarray.
> 
> >The bigwigs in government, on the other hand, has managed to consolidate
> >even more power than before...what used to be "state property" is now
> >firmly in the hands of "The Oligarchs", who just happen to ALL be
> >party insiders.
> 
>         And how are they supposed to be a unified front rather than some
> loose community of feudal lords?
> 
> >Back in the 1970's, one of their philosophical leaders  (can't remember
> >who) said, "We will feign weakness at the time of our greatest
> >strength).
> 
>         From a grove of birch trees it came.

Actually, I first learned about it in a book written by a Soviet
colonel who defected.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rich)
Subject: Re: Processing data is bad!
Date: 26 Jun 2000 20:57:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also schrieb Aaron Kulkis:

[snipped rant including 26-line stupid .sig]

>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer

Oh, good Lord, once wasn't enough, was it?

*plonk*

- 
Catch the cluetrain.  http://www.cluetrain.com
ALL programs are poems, it's just that not all programmers are poets.
    -- Jonathan Guthrie in the scary.devil.monastery

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Windows98
Date: 26 Jun 2000 17:01:33 -0400

On 26 Jun 2000 06:29:04 -0500, Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:54:28 -0500, Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>James wrote:
>>> 
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> Even though Win98 is a much more usable desktop in many respects
>>> (including games) than Linux it is, agreeably, highly unreliable.
>>> Therefore your post in this NG will have no credibility, even
>>> though it deserves some.  In the company I work for we run
>>> Win95 on most desktops (some 20000+) and of course experience
>>> the usual problems - mostly users corrupting their own systems.
>>> The company will in the next 2-3 years upgrade all desktops
>>> and backends (from Novell & GroupWise) to W2k.  Linux, with
>>> its limited and crude desktop apps, its complicated man-machine
>>> interface (for average users), is simply not an option.
>>
>>If all the apps you need are available in linux than linux is a
>>far better choice than any version of windows.

["STOPPID" formatting corrected... with a "useless UNIX
text-shuffalling program".]

>Lie-nux doesn't HALVE any apps and nobody's gonna make any either.
>STOPPID COMMY! GO BACK TO THE RUSSIA!

"Lie-nux" has ("hals"?) thousands of apps, included in most
distributions, and thousands more available for download over the
Internet. "STOPPID" TROLL! GO BACK TO "THE" REDMOND!

[stupidity snipped]


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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:03:11 -0400



Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> >>         Russia is clearly in *disarray*.
> 
> >Wrong....the CIVILIAN POPULATION is in disarray.
> 
> >The bigwigs in government, on the other hand, has managed to consolidate
> >even more power than before...what used to be "state property" is now
> >firmly in the hands of "The Oligarchs", who just happen to ALL be
> >party insiders.
> 
>         And how are they supposed to be a unified front rather than some
> loose community of feudal lords?
> 
> >Back in the 1970's, one of their philosophical leaders  (can't remember
> >who) said, "We will feign weakness at the time of our greatest
> >strength).
> 
>         From a grove of birch trees it came.
> 
>         Yes, John Birch trees :-)
> 
>         I consider it absurd because if it is feigning weakness, it's
> going too far. Consider:
> 
> * The USSR's Eastern-European empire: GONE
> * East Germany: annexed by West Germany


United States and most of NATO: Disarming.
(russia....building several THOUSAND T-90 tanks, and have the crews
trained to operate them)


> 
> * The republics of the USSR: separate nations

I.e. more votes in the U.N.

> 
> * Chechnya: hardly worth calling a triumph

Live-fire exercises to update their land-warfare doctrine.

First draft: Totally fucked up
Second draft: Good enough for their purposes.

> 
> * The Party: now has competition

Most of which are false fronts, taking direction from the Communist
Party itself; and a few whacked out fringe groups like the Fascists.

I saw the Fascists demonstrating in front of the Sankt Peterburg
Gostinii
Dvor (Literally: Merchant's house; a 3-story shopping center vintage
1750).

Their leader was an idiot wearing some sort of costume (knee-high
black boots, black pants, black shirt, black cap like something out
of 1930's Germany) which made him look like he was part of the German
SS troops that invaded the place in 1941.

As you can imagine, nobody paid any attention to this clown, nor
his 5 followers.

Nobody in their right mind would consider this to be less than
effective "opposition" (unless one's goal is to sear into the
public's mind that all of the "opposition parties" are ludicrous).


Also, note that most politicians who put up EFFECTIVE, sustained,
and tenacious resistance against the Communist party end up getting
assassinated.

The last time I was in St. Petersburg, there were 4 homocides.  Two
of them were assassinations.  (One was St. Petersburg's representative
in the Duma, shot several times in the stairwell of her apartment
building; the other was a political operative, shot by three men
with automatic rifles who shot him approx 30 times as he left a bank,
and then jumped into a waiting van).


> 
> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:   
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:03:55 -0400



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:06:11 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:49:58 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >"Mark S. Bilk" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [deletia]
> >> >communis (perestroika means "restructuring"...and that is exactly
> >> >what they did...the RESTRUCTURED COMMUNISM), wherein they pass out
> >> >all of the economic goodies to a few party insiders (recall the
> >>
> >>         ...nah, that has been going on since at least the beginning
> >>         of the postwar period.
> >
> >Have you been there?
> >
> >Have you talked with the people?
> 
>         One of my inlaws was an accountant in Belarus for ~ 40 years
>         and worked in both manufacturing and government.

I'm talking about anyone who lives there NOW.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:   
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:04:26 -0400



Michael Lorton wrote:
> 
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Socialism is great... as long as EVERYONE is a robot who does exactly
> > as told, and has not an iota of self concern.
> 
> And is told by someone who has total information about the economy and
> unlimited accuracy in decision making.
> 
> > The problem is, EVERYBODY is greedy, and, in pursuing their self
> > interests, each individual person throws a handful of sand into
> > the gears.
> 
> Actually, incentive is only one part of the significance of the price
> system; information-carrying and resource allocation are as important.
> 

Which is why Capitalism rules.

> M.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:10:30 -0400



"Marada C. Shradrakaii" wrote:
> 
> >* that the Unix model doesn't extend well into the graphical user
> >interface
> 
> The *ix model can be GUI-ified.  Have a look at:
> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~tal197/vvsh.php3
> 
> A GUI way to handle data streams/filters.
> 
> >  * that having two competing desktop enviroments will be causing
> >inconveniance to users for years.
> 
> Nope.  I can run Kapps under Gnome and Gnoapps under KDE.  I just have to
> choose the panel/filemanager I prefer.  It doesn't inconvinence me, except that
> there are two seperate library sets to keep at hand.  The competition may
> encourage superior overall products.

Oh, you said a VERY VERY BAD word for LoseDOS droids:  COMPETITION

> --
> Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
> Colony name not needed in address.
> DC2.Dw Gm L280c W+ T90k Sks,wl Cma-,wbk Bsu#/fl A+++ Fr++ Nu M/ O H++ $+ Fo++
> R++ Ac+ J-- S-- U? I++ V+ Q++[thoughtspeech] Tc++

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:16:17 -0400



KLH wrote:
> 
> Wow. Every reply to my post said about the same thing. I feel like I'm
> talking to a cult or something :) But I hope to reply to most of the

If everyone at the scene of a hit and run accident said that the
offending car was red, would you call that a cult, also?

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Windows98
Date: 26 Jun 2000 17:18:50 -0400

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:07:30 -0400, Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Did you ever consider some people don't like spending HOURS trying to
>get simple things in Linux to work the way they want them too?

Some people don't like spending HOURS running ScanDisk, figuring
out why Windows booted to Safe Mode _this_ time, figuring out why
the Recycle Bin suddenly disappeared, or having to reformat the hard
drive and start from scratch. 

>I've
>never had to reinstall Win2k.

Win2K hasn't been around long enough for a lot of people to have had
to reinstall. But you're one of those lucky NT users who never had
to re-install NT 4.0 either, right?  

>NT is the future of consumer Windows. 

NT was supposed to be the _present_ of consumer Windows. It was
supposed to be the next thing after Windows 3.11. Instead, DOS is
the present of consumer Windows with Windows 95 and Windows 98,
and DOS (not NT as you and Microsoft claim) is also the _future_
of consumer Windows, starting with Windows ME. When will consumer
NT finally become reality? Microsoft says "Real Soon Now, along
with all the other things we've been meaning to get around to."

-- 
Do unto others as they'd do unto you, but do it first!


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From: "Marcus Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:25:30 GMT


"Loren Petrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ivufm$5ar$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> ...Straw position. If one deals with others, one has to respect
> their interest, and not try to force awkward choices on them.

Uh, why?  Where did that come from?



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From: "Marcus Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:27:35 GMT

Hmmm...
I doubt it.  Not without charging you an arm and a leg...


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If I wanted a dealer to replace the tires on a particular car,
> it is VERY likely that a salesman would accomdate me. They are
> there to sell me something and aren't under any threat from a
> component manufacturer (which can be easily replaced) to bundle
> a particular component.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:    
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:24:18 GMT

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:03:55 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:06:11 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:49:58 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >"Mark S. Bilk" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >> >> MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [deletia]
>> >> >communis (perestroika means "restructuring"...and that is exactly
>> >> >what they did...the RESTRUCTURED COMMUNISM), wherein they pass out
>> >> >all of the economic goodies to a few party insiders (recall the
>> >>
>> >>         ...nah, that has been going on since at least the beginning
>> >>         of the postwar period.
>> >
>> >Have you been there?
>> >
>> >Have you talked with the people?
>> 
>>         One of my inlaws was an accountant in Belarus for ~ 40 years
>>         and worked in both manufacturing and government.
>
>I'm talking about anyone who lives there NOW.
        
        ...and I was pointing out the fact that a nation does not become
        a model capitalist democracy overnight and the fact that the 
        Soviet Union had a long tradition of institutionalized graft and
        corruption at all levels of society.

[deletia]

        They were also feudal less than 100 years ago.

-- 

                                                                |||
                                                               / | \

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Comparing Windows NT and UNIX System Management
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:10:55 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thus Sprake The Ghost In The Machine:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote on 25 Jun 2000 15:41:13 -0500 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >       http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/bin/nts/ntsysman.exe
> >
> > [2] What, precisely, is the point of serving a .exe file?  Is this
> >     executed from the server side, or the client?
>
> I wonder... Could it be an .exe virii or worm that runs on M$ Outhouse?

Virii or worms that run on one of the biggest worms in todays computing
environment as a host?



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:17:24 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Andrew E. Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This is one of the stranger postings I've seen in newsgroups.

Thank you.




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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Comparing Windows NT and UNIX System Management
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:02 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Reboot, reinstall, reformat.  Can I have my MCSE now?
> >
> > Ooops, I forgot refute...
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> I have my MCSE. I bought it for fl. 5,- at Wehkamp. (That's a dutch
> mail-order store)

I think you were over charged.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Fan of General Wojciech Jaruzelski? was Re: Anti-Human Libertarians 
Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:27:17 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 Jun 2000 19:03:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich) wrote:

>>>I guess you are hypocrite defending modern guilds attempting to screw customers
>>>and competing businesses and workers.

        Grow up. You're just envious because you're not a member of one.

>>      I'm sure that you appreciate what General Wojciech Jaruzelski had 
>>done with that infamous labor union Solidarity.

>I'm sure that this would actually be you defending that, bc you are
>pathological, corrupt liar pretending things are different than in 
>reality -- i.e. that Solidarity was labor union like typical Western labor 
>unions, while in reality it was more like immense political movement. 
...

        Which acted like a l-a-b-o-r u-n-i-o-n.

--
Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:10:17 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) wrote:
>Which now means that I must have qualified people physically present
>to access and manage the system.

Which is also complete against how we want to be using these bloody
machines to automate things so we can sit on the beach all day! Gates
wants to enslave us all making us mere input devices that press buttons :)

>UNIX and Linux on the other hand were used as typesetting systems
>starting in the early 1980s,

1974 or thereabouts actually - Bell Labs patent dept.

>others at Thinking Machines - developers of the first massively
>parallel computers with over 1000 processors.

64K 1-bit processors in the first lot. Lots of lights too. And
they could run Conway's Life on them.

-- 
Chuck Berry lied about the promised land

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft 
Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:28:30 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 Jun 2000 19:08:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich) wrote:

>>      An ILLEGAL immigrant in pursuit of gold-paved streets. Sheesh.
>You know nothing about my life or what is it that I pursue, so fuck off.

        Horse manure.

>>      And one who never made very much money off of being a capitalism 
>>groupie. 
>Enough to understand how things tick in major aspects, and where I can expect
>real and where I can expect unreal.

        But I don't see you bragging about the promotions you have gotten.

>"Good government" and real govt are like potential and reality.

        So why not move to some supposed anarcho-capitalist utopia and 
see how nice it is?


--
Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html

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From: "Marcus Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:33:06 GMT


"Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Also, MS also put FALSE ERROR MESSAGES in Windows to make consumers
> *believe* that DR-DOS was not functioning properly, when, in fact,
> DR-DOS was fully 100% compatible with MS-DOS.

That is incorrect.  They put a warning message in the Beta version of
Win3.x, saying that this beta product hasn't been tested with this operating
system.

I would consider it poor programming to allow a user to install and use a
beta product on an untested os without at least warning them of the possible
problems.





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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:32:33 -0400



KLH wrote:
> 

<lotsa snippage>

> 
> One thing I reject from your arguments is the implication that all roads
> away from Unix leads to Windows. I don't beleive that is true. I think a
> modern OS can be designed in the same way Unix was designed in the 1970s (or
> is it 1960s? 1950s?). I do not consider current OSs modern, just conveniant
> to build a business upon.

I do not consider current automobiles modern, just convenient to
build a business upon.

Yeah, whatever.


> 
> It seems I am arguing again when what I set out to do was ask some
> questions. But if Unix is the best there is, I am very disappointed.

So, your computer isn't a mindreading box.  Boo fucking hoo..



If a gasoline engines (which work cheaply and reliably) are the
best there is, I am very disappointed.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: correct way of 8-bit char encoding?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:53:13 +0200

Ooops ... I was wondering why I did not get a response from
comp.mail.sendmail :-)

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

Jens

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From: Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO problems -- Any suggestions?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:33:17 +0200

[...]
> On reboot, the bios sometimes could not see disk #2. When this would
> happen, and when disk #1 would attempt to boot, LILO would load part
> way and then freeze. It literally would print to the screen:
> 
> LI
> 

This is a very helpful error message, it means:

The first stage boot loader was able to load teh second stage boot
loader, but has failed to execute it.
This can be caused either by a geometry mismatch or by moving
/boot/boot.b without running the map installer.

You should probably run /sbin/lilo once to update the map. 

[...]
> How does one get around this? 

Your computer does have a floppy disk drive, I presume?

Cheers

Jens


PS: This is not the right board for technical questions. This is the
right group to tell ppl how great Linux works and to bash Windows     
trolls

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